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Archers now shoot through walls?

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Mikeyboy Warder Posts: 29 Joined: Apr 21, 2012 13:33	by Mikeyboy » May 30, 2012 07:36 I guess I didn't see the update, but keep archers no longer require los? Is there a reason for the change?

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	by Austerim » May 30, 2012 07:49 To be more "livelike". [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	by Abydos » May 30, 2012 10:02 Features that are implemented improperly will be corrected. Some fixes take a bit longer than others.

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » May 30, 2012 11:26 They still require to have LOS to aggro on targets. This makes sure LOS to them is possible. Once they aggroed a target no further LOS checks are made. Was this way on live servers. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Fabulabelle Eagle Knight Posts: 793 Joined: Jul 22, 2011 14:54	by Fabulabelle » May 30, 2012 13:14 Please do the same for Hunter/scout/ranger ahahah Btw, everyone was QQing about taskers, this will make tasks a little bit more challenging >>> Please click here and Save the Pandas! They need us! They need you! <<< Best Realm Rank will be 1L1 !

HulkGris Phoenix Knight Posts: 1256 Joined: Jan 23, 2012 19:48	by HulkGris » May 31, 2012 10:33 [edit] WARNING : humour inside, plz read carrefully Abydos wrote:Bug that are implemented improperly will be added. Some bugs take a bit longer than others. Fixed. Last edited by HulkGris on May 31, 2012 14:54, edited 1 time in total. RIP : Ectoplasme My own version of Uthgard Character Builder

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	by Abydos » May 31, 2012 11:05 Mind your words. Do not change what I wrote.

Magicco Alerion Knight Posts: 2360 Joined: Aug 01, 2010 00:00	by Magicco » May 31, 2012 11:49 sorry Abydos, but this is clearly no "feature". Mythic patched it later, same as necro pets could perma nuke everthing trough the doors. and in the beginning the archer guards gave a sh*t about first LOS, they allways shooted regardless of LOS. so i dont know why this bug made it into the server.... but who cares, only guards, they wont impact the gameplay in any way, but its a lil bit stupid

Zarkor Unicorn Knight Posts: 3710 Joined: Aug 15, 2006 00:00 Location: Antwerp, Flanders, Belgium	by Zarkor » May 31, 2012 12:10 Sad that completely mindless copy paste actually gets done before fixing real bugs... In defense of truth-to-experience.

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » May 31, 2012 12:23 Zarkor wrote:Sad that completely mindless copy paste actually gets done before fixing real bugs... Was the easiest fix for archer guards not working at all. Not much time invested. And you can be sure it is worked on real problems in the background but you can't see that as its a lot of code in the hidden to work through. Uthgard has a bad code base in our RvR subsystem which currently prevents us to make changes easily without breaking everything. First step is to rework and rewrite large parts of it. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Zarkor Unicorn Knight Posts: 3710 Joined: Aug 15, 2006 00:00 Location: Antwerp, Flanders, Belgium	by Zarkor » May 31, 2012 12:40 Blue wrote: Zarkor wrote:Sad that completely mindless copy paste actually gets done before fixing real bugs... Was the easiest fix for archer guards not working at all. Not much time invested. And you can be sure it is worked on real problems in the background but you can't see that as its a lot of code in the hidden to work through. Uthgard has a bad code base in our RvR subsystem which currently prevents us to make changes easily without breaking everything. First step is to rework and rewrite large parts of it. Ouch. I didn't know archers were bugged though, at least in BGs they shoot when they can. Ok they do sometimes shoot arrows that don't deal damage because they're too far away but.. oh well. In defense of truth-to-experience.

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » May 31, 2012 13:00 Zarkor wrote:I didn't know archers were bugged though, at least in BGs they shoot when they can. Ok they do sometimes shoot arrows that don't deal damage because they're too far away but.. oh well. They didn't switch to other visible targets and were stuck on the one target without LOS rendering them useless. But if we get more forward I will review the archer AI at all and LOS could be reintroduced. But thats a topic for later. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

HulkGris Phoenix Knight Posts: 1256 Joined: Jan 23, 2012 19:48	by HulkGris » May 31, 2012 16:07 Blue wrote:They didn't switch to other visible targets and were stuck on the one target without LOS rendering them useless. But if we get more forward I will review the archer AI at all and LOS could be reintroduced. But thats a topic for later. Good news RIP : Ectoplasme My own version of Uthgard Character Builder

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	by Abydos » May 31, 2012 19:55 Magicco wrote:sorry Abydos, but this is clearly no "feature". Mythic patched it later, same as necro pets could perma nuke everthing trough the doors. Couple things: 1.69 patch limit and archers (and casters) still behave this way on live. Before you're certain about something please check.

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » May 31, 2012 21:17 Abydos wrote:1.69 patch limit and archers (and casters) still behave this way on live. Before you're certain about something please check. Sorry Aby I forgot you made live tests with videos which clearly have shown that. hides It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."