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Magicco
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Postby Magicco » Jan 06, 2012 02:24

Okay after some talk with a GM, i want to start a discussion about the topic *adding*
This is not discuss this particular incident, its about the problem that people insult other for doing RvR.

This example is just one of the many i saw on Uthgard. It happens very often in Albion, while on Midgard i dont see those problems. People Xrealm, people flame hum

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(btw 2 grp mids vs 2 grp albs)

Two big problems here:
People insult people for doing RvR and not Guild vs Guild
People xrealm very often to take revenge or if they see no inc and to fight other grps while they already know their setup.

Why are those big problems on Albion but on Midgard there are none of those problems?
Why people dont buy Guildwars? Or play on Live?

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Postby Orihiime » Jan 06, 2012 02:33

I can feel that the CAPS user is Tuf !!!!
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Postby pweet » Jan 06, 2012 02:34

Its not Albion, it is just Essedum and his rage crew, just ignore him and you ll be fine.

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Postby Magicco » Jan 06, 2012 02:41

its not about this special incident its about the problem itself, you can ignore player but you cant ignore a problem that occur again and again and again.

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Postby pweet » Jan 06, 2012 02:53

Yes you can, you dont know these ppl so why do you care for theiir opinion. Just do what you want to do and dont waste a minute of your life time to such a ******. Regards

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Postby Celteen » Jan 06, 2012 03:21

pweet wrote:Its not Albion, it is just Essedum and his rage crew, just ignore him and you ll be fine.


No it's not fine, its annoying and I would like to see more bans for insulting / cross realm talk, cause thats what drives most people out of RvR.
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Postby Badtzmaru » Jan 06, 2012 05:20

Celteen wrote:No it's not fine, its annoying and I would like to see more bans for insulting / cross realm talk, cause thats what drives most people out of RvR.


If i can express my point of view, it is true what you said, because insults drive people out from any kind of situation, but another reason that drives people out of rvr (and maybe Uthgard) is the lacking of fun.
There is a part of the server population that don't find any amusement in killing an enemy fg with 2 fg, and, even less, the single enemy group can find any fun being automaticaly defeated, maybe after a 20 min preparation. Istant victory is no fun, as well as istant dead, for some people.
I'm not saying that everybody must play this way (only quite balanced fight unless major event are taking place, like relic raids, etc etc). I know there are other players that find satisfactory to see a red named enemy go to the floor, while their realm points counter increases its value a bit. And that's enough for them.
Saying again that offending other people is not nice, and that it denies every possible solution or opinion exchange, why can't people try to avoid spoling other's fun, making a mediation among their idea of fun and other's idea of fun?
Always appealing to the rules created 10 years ago is pointless. Nothing is perfect and if this game is almost dead, would mean that had at least some flaws.
One (my opinion), was the terrible frustration that might give in some situations.
Things can be changed in search of an improvement, only dead things don't change.
I'm not saying we must change rvr core rules, just listen the needs of everybody to find the best possible ingame behaviour, that might lead to the best possible fun factor for all.
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Postby EternitySphere » Jan 06, 2012 08:59

It's realm v realm, not 1v1, not 8v8. I would take an even fight over an uneven one anyday of the week, and depending on who I come across fighting have np moving on or engaging. If people get upset, at worse it'd only make me smile knowing I messed up someone's perceived vision of what daoc 'should' be.

I came from a pretty focused 8v8 server and there were so many countless times I was zerged or zerged in retaliation. People that rage about it don't understand that it's just the nature of the game, so much so anyone who raged about it was laughed at. If they don't understand that.....I like to take a little comfort in knowing I'm helping them learn.

Even fights are always much better, but the game wasn't designed specifically with that in mind.
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Postby Oswaldo » Jan 06, 2012 10:37

so mr magico if people want to 8 v 8 they could just go live?

Who are you to say what people should do on uth?

ps funny essedum is banned hahaha
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Postby Orihiime » Jan 06, 2012 12:00

Oswaldo wrote:so mr magico if people want to 8 v 8 they could just go live?

Who are you to say what people should do on uth?

ps funny essedum is banned hahaha

And who is essedum for insult ppl in broad cuz ppl added his '' 8v8 '' ?
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Postby Snigel » Jan 06, 2012 12:03

This isn´t Alanya complaining about iG flames? :lol:

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Postby Orihiime » Jan 06, 2012 12:17

Snigel wrote:This isn´t Alanya complaining about iG flames? :lol:

pweet wrote:...Just do what you want to do...

i dont complain, i flame a lot for ppl adding my 1v1 ^^ but i do it in send, not in broad that involve all realm :P I know everytime i do it, its me who is wrong :)
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Postby holsten-knight » Jan 06, 2012 12:49

Badtzmaru wrote: Istant victory is no fun, as well as istant dead, for some people.


actually i have absolutely no problem with instant victories :D

maybe this is why i really don't care if we get addet or not, if mids add us... easy rp. If they don't, more rps but earned with hard work :lol:

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Postby Galandriel2 » Jan 06, 2012 13:07

uuuh did i get flames or why my nicefighter post was deleted? : /

thumbs up for banning ppl like tuf btw, they destroy rvr fun for many casual players with their behaviour

edit: always funny to imagine ppl which CAPS RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAGE in real life :lol:
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Postby Trishin » Jan 06, 2012 13:21

This is not discuss this particular incident, its about the problem that people insult other for doing RvR.


If people do not respect this the topic will be closed.

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