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Postby roflcopter » May 04, 2011 00:09

Rangers losing PD.

Rangers losing 10% RPs per person they group with. So, when you find 5 rangers together (very common) they would get 50% RPs split 5 ways per kill.

That is all. Btw if you play a ranger I'm sure you enjoy it because winning all the time is certainly fun but hopefully you're not so stuck up you cant admit that its not that youre actually good and just that your class is so OP it's amazing that the staff has let it stay this way.

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Postby pweet » May 04, 2011 00:14

let me guess, u play a minst :D :D :D

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Postby Ronian » May 04, 2011 00:21

You should try Reaver, Spiritmaster or Minstrel and you will see that there are actually stronger classes than Ranger. So Rangers are oped because of PD? So why are people saying that Scout or Hunter sucks (oh wait, they have PD too...).

PD is clearly the best I-win button in DAOC history or the 2hand damage must suck. Otherwise I cant explain that I got hit for 327 damage by a dwarven warrior...

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Postby roflcopter » May 04, 2011 00:36

probably because rangers can self buff (this being classic that kind of handy and yes i still use full buffs worth of pots charges) they dont lose significant damage from bow for speccing low in bow spec, they get mad growth rates off CD styles (everyone knows this) they have IP, and DW unlike hunter (crap 2h) and scout (crap 1h and shield).

they are probably the single most unbalanced class on uth atm. yes many other things need balancing (viper is a little ridiculous atm and i play an inf as my main) but a lot of this is because uthgard RAs are balanced around legendary weapons etc which dont exist on uth. the only reason rangers have PD is because on live you would just use a cold legendary vs them and it was a non issue. on uthgard that is not possible.

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Postby Xedie » May 04, 2011 00:49

:wall:

How I missed those Ranger QQ threads. And no ranger is not overpowered, but he is strong.
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Postby roflcopter » May 04, 2011 01:00

i watched an RR11 and RR8 ranger yesterday beat 4 RR5+ infs and an RR5 Merc at the same time. thats 5v2.

Not OP? That has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with they simply do too much damage for how much they take because of RAs.

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Postby Xedie » May 04, 2011 01:14

kk, go on!
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Postby GreenP » May 04, 2011 08:03

roflcopter wrote:i watched an RR11 and RR8 ranger yesterday beat 4 RR5+ infs and an RR5 Merc at the same time. thats 5v2.

Not OP? That has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with they simply do too much damage for how much they take because of RAs.


Maybe they should´ve assist :rolleyes: Sorry but something can´t be right with that infis ... if 1 dotpoison of some viper3stealther is enough to bring his enemy down to 50% i figured out 4 infis should be able to give him some overdose? (Yes they don´t stack but still lotta dmg in short time?) So i just guess really badplayed by that albs, happens.
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Postby TheNeX » May 04, 2011 11:40

roflcopter wrote:i watched an RR11 and RR8 ranger yesterday beat 4 RR5+ AFK infs and an RR5 AFK Mercs at the same time. thats 5v2.


Fixed.This is the only way i see that happening.

Next time don't make up a story, specially a ludacrus one like this. 2vs5 with no cc? LOL.

Yeah rangers are good. Dont like it? Roll a visible, play grpd, join BA. Those are your viable options.
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Postby zenobya » May 04, 2011 15:30

rangers having pd is not a big deal jsut get faster weapons with dot proc (for meleers) to beat them down they deserv to get ip as well but in compariosn ahvinga style opening with stun is rdiculous when they jsut bash out crazy damge in 2 sec(i saw many times i drop fom %70 to %20 in that short amount of time fom a ranger on my nearly 2khp friar(suposed to be 1k damge in 2 swings ?)

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Postby Celteen » May 04, 2011 15:37

zenobya wrote:rangers having pd is not a big deal jsut get faster weapons with dot proc (for meleers) to beat them down they deserv to get ip as well but in compariosn ahvinga style opening with stun is rdiculous when they jsut bash out crazy damge in 2 sec(i saw many times i drop fom %70 to %20 in that short amount of time fom a ranger on my nearly 2khp friar(suposed to be 1k damge in 2 swings ?)

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Postby Ronian » May 04, 2011 16:42

roflcopter wrote:i watched an RR11 and RR8 ranger yesterday beat 4 RR5+ infs and an RR5 Merc at the same time. thats 5v2.

Not OP? That has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with they simply do too much damage for how much they take because of RAs.


Yeah good comparison. You obviously speak about Littleluc and Perrans and some random camping albstealthers. They are a 2 blade ranger team and they play a lot together. Additionally, they can afford a lot of goodies (aug str toughness ip purge3 pd and so on)

Roll a piercing melee ranger and try to beat some viper3 noob assassins. Without IP you will lose almost every fight.

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Postby Jezzmin » May 04, 2011 16:55

Ronian wrote:Roll a piercing melee ranger and try to beat some viper3 noob assassins. Without IP you will lose almost every fight.


thats true for tanks as well...its hard to beat viper-3-assassins without IP even as arms ;)...but thats why IP is for, right?

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Postby Ronian » May 04, 2011 17:28

Jezzmin wrote:
Ronian wrote:Roll a piercing melee ranger and try to beat some viper3 noob assassins. Without IP you will lose almost every fight.


thats true for tanks as well...its hard to beat viper-3-assassins without IP even as arms ;)...but thats why IP is for, right?


The difference is that a highlander armsman got 1800 hitpoints and a luri ranger 1200.

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Postby realac0 » May 04, 2011 18:02

Ronian wrote:
Jezzmin wrote:
Ronian wrote:Roll a piercing melee ranger and try to beat some viper3 noob assassins. Without IP you will lose almost every fight.


thats true for tanks as well...its hard to beat viper-3-assassins without IP even as arms ;)...but thats why IP is for, right?


The difference is that a highlander armsman got 1800 hitpoints and a luri ranger 1200.



... i vote for give rangers more hp's ... they need it!!!! :oops: :lol:

the day i have see shield rr6 merc die against rr8 (or 9 don't remember) ranger without using ip (just using purge), i stopped whine about rangers, there is no sense at all :wall:

i don't remember a thing about old ra's system.

rangers will stay with pd?

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