Hi all, i'm a new player here on Uthgard and i'd like to know wich may be the best realm to roll on for no-zerg rvr.. i love to play GvG at most, but atm i don't know where to roll and wich may be the better class (as needed here on uth) for my toon.. just to know before getting a toon to 50 and understand to have wasted my time

thanks for your advices

Oro

hm, right now there are not very many pure Guild Groups out rvr'ing. You have a few setgroups, but I would say it's not likely to just break into those easily. Generally, RvR on Uth right now has - how to put this - room for improvement. You will not find many PUGs going out; for various reasons that have to do with both the player mentality and OF as a zone. And those are usually an ensemble of RVR-active players that, over a long time or through playing in a setgroup, got a reputation for being capable players. An active night in Hib sees maybe 3 FG, one of which is a setgroup, another which is guild group and the third could be a Pug as described above. And that's an active night. Many other nights you will come on and don't see anyone RVRing.

Funnily enough, the most accessible action for the time being are the BGs, which is causing a big debate over how to get the focus back to endgame RvR. Not sure there is a solution with the the current road map for the server.

That being said, I don't think any particular realm can be called an underdog. And class-wise, a det tank or a supporter - with OF RAs presumably coming one day, hybrid classes will be even less popular than they are now.

Lasastard wrote:hm, right now there are not very many pure Guild Groups out rvr'ing. You have a few setgroups, but I would say it's not likely to just break into those easily. Generally, RvR on Uth right now has - how to put this - room for improvement. You will not find many PUGs going out; for various reasons that have to do with both the player mentality and OF as a zone. And those are usually an ensemble of RVR-active players that, over a long time or through playing in a setgroup, got a reputation for being capable players. An active night in Hib sees maybe 3 FG, one of which is a setgroup, another which is guild group and the third could be a Pug as described above. And that's an active night. Many other nights you will come on and don't see anyone RVRing.

Funnily enough, the most accessible action for the time being are the BGs, which is causing a big debate over how to get the focus back to endgame RvR. Not sure there is a solution with the the current road map for the server.

That being said, I don't think any particular realm can be called an underdog. And class-wise, a det tank or a supporter - with OF RAs presumably coming one day, hybrid classes will be even less popular than they are now.

td;dr

To summarize what he said: "There are not many guild groups, there are not many PuG groups" = There are not many groups = No action = just stay in BG's (They're more fun anyways)

People make Emain sound a lot worse than it really is..
I pretty much only solo so while I'm not the best person to judge FG v FG RvR I still see what's going on in Emain..
There are groups running though, and if there isn't FG's around there is usually a lot of small grps running around.

I still agree that there is room for improvement, but I think people are sending some very bad messages to new players and make it seem a lot worse then it really is..

Also it's worth to keep in mind that there a few people on this forum who spend more time posting their opinions then actually playing the game

Breeze wrote:People make Emain sound a lot worse than it really is..
I pretty much only solo so while I'm not the best person to judge FG v FG RvR I still see what's going on in Emain..
There are groups running though, and if there isn't FG's around there is usually a lot of small grps running around.

I still agree that there is room for improvement, but I think people are sending some very bad messages to new players and make it seem a lot worse then it really is..

Also it's worth to keep in mind that there a few people on this forum who spend more time posting their opinions then actually playing the game

It has nothing to do with 'sending a bad message ' - he asked a serious question and I, playing RvR in groups on Uthgard, gave him my 2 cents. Seeing what mind-numbing grind it can be to get to 50 here, being honest about the situation of endgame RvR is, I presume, appreciated. I don't doubt that you, as a solo player, see people running around. But that does not give you any insights whatsoever into the practical side of finding a group to play with.

True, but I mean if I had to base my opinion about Uthgard RvR on forum posts as a new player I would never even consider starting here
You got a point though and I'm not trying to discuss this, I just hope we don't scare away potential new players who is needed to bring endgame RvR to a higher level

Hi Oro, u r post seems like u want to join the 8v8 Party. There is ca. 1 guild grp running per realm. in mid maybe 2. And u wont find fair 8v8 anyway since basically main rvr zone is emain. Here u meet all ppl doing rvr, 8v8 grps as well as casual gamers stealther etc which dont follow the philisophy of 8v8. So at the end u ll realise that u are in a 8v8 guild but u dont get the fights u wanted. So better dont do a char on uth, if u dont want to rage too much
Thats what i think is best for u atm, but as mentioned before, if we scare away everyone we wont change this situation. So come join the RvR active community and make it better

scythe111 wrote:To summarize what he said: "There are not many guild groups, there are not many PuG groups" = There are not many groups = No action = just stay in BG's (They're more fun anyways)

Best way to attract new player to Uthgard and endgame RvR. *Clap*

"No action" is definitely exaggeration if you dont play at off hours. If you want clean 8v8, dont do it near Emain AMG. Dont expect to get that there.

What time do plan to play? Prime Euro/US? Alot depends on that. If you want pure 8V8, as Blue said, avoid Emain, that is zerg city. BG's can be the same depending on when you play. I would say play the realm and class you enjoy most, then get to know your realm mates, or better yet, get some RL friends to join you!

first of all i want to thank you for all your answers

i know that to fight 8v8 is NOT a rule.. i've played long time on several servers (both EU and US) so i know that sometimes you can have a nice 8v8 and sometimes you'll start from the TP hoping to find an 8v8 and get wiped after 100 metres by the zerg

Me and some friends are on Albion now.. maybe Mid would be the best choice for OF or even Hib, but Alb was our very first "home", so we're back there

Obviously we'll pass through BGs, but the final mission is to gest to RvR very fast (as RL permits ), we're pvpers non pvers, and maybe with more ppl doing high level rvr (i mean regular rvr, not BG ), some enemies will show up again.. and for sure, NOT in Emain only

We're a cabby, a sorc and a theurg atm.. i hope our old guildmates will come back here as well.. we're working on it (because we need some shields and healing ).

Thanks again for your replies, i'll keep an eye on this discussion and share on our forum

see you in battle.. oh.. well.. in Salisbury Plains atm

Oro

@Adrianne

i've forgot to say that we'll play on Euro primetime.. when we use to play on US servers we use to extend our gameplay until even Coreans will show up with their zerg (Coreans are the PURE ESSENCE of Zerg ).. but now RL needs her tribute to be paid so we'll play most of the time until 1.00am for +1 gmt

Lasastard wrote:hm, right now there are not very many pure Guild Groups out rvr'ing. You have a few setgroups, but I would say it's not likely to just break into those easily. Generally, RvR on Uth right now has - how to put this - room for improvement. You will not find many PUGs going out; for various reasons that have to do with both the player mentality and OF as a zone. And those are usually an ensemble of RVR-active players that, over a long time or through playing in a setgroup, got a reputation for being capable players. An active night in Hib sees maybe 3 FG, one of which is a setgroup, another which is guild group and the third could be a Pug as described above. And that's an active night. Many other nights you will come on and don't see anyone RVRing.

Äh wtf? Seriously, you were inactive the last 6 month? Never left DL? Or just playing at non-primetime.

Since weeks there are several groups out there. Yesterday it was like 4-5 Mid grps, 2 Alb grps and 2-3 Hib grps.

There are nearly none setgroups (tbh call me one) so most of them are guild groups.

Also there are many complete random pugs. When I start at 6pm I often group with complete random ppl which ends at around 8pm for GG. And on times like that you will find alot enemy pugs. The guilds usually dont build grps before 8pm-9pm.

@ oromekar

Well you shouldnt go on any advice here. Play what you want and be 'good'. Thats what it takes to have fun in rvr. Be active and dont play onehanded. Take a serious group char (which means nearly everything except stealthers, wizzards, bd, friar, warden) and go. At any point you will find an active RvR guild.

To avoid further QQ... ofc you can play the classes I mentioned above in groups but its alot harder to find pugs with em.

Edit: kk, havent read your post. Have fun.

Blue wrote:

scythe111 wrote:To summarize what he said: "There are not many guild groups, there are not many PuG groups" = There are not many groups = No action = just stay in BG's (They're more fun anyways)

Best way to attract new player to Uthgard and endgame RvR. *Clap*

If you don't want players to give negative feedback, it's best to make sure they don't have something to be negative about.

Satisfied customers (players) are one of the best ways to advertise your service, and even more so on the internet.

Zarkor wrote:Satisfied customers (players) are one of the best ways to advertise your service, and even more so on the internet.

There will be always unsatisfied customers in any business. Even with 99% satisfied customers, 1% with negative review can make quite a difference. Uthgard can't satisfy any players need as play styles and requirements differ a lot.

Blue wrote:

Zarkor wrote:Satisfied customers (players) are one of the best ways to advertise your service, and even more so on the internet.

There will be always unsatisfied customers in any business. Even with 99% satisfied customers, 1% with negative review can make quite a difference. Uthgard can't satisfy any players need as play styles and requirements differ a lot.

There's also a difference between 99% satisfied customers and <25% satisfied customers.