I wonder if something can be done about the LOS of the keeps. LOS is very hard if not impossible many times because there is a keen, kobold, or inconnu as a ranger, hunter or scout. Hib keeps almost all points have no LOS.

I think this isn't very fair and severly limits many classes from participating in advancing their RPs in this manner. SB's, NS's and Inf's certianly have the ability to climb walls and thus have no hinderance. Bow classes that can volly can overcome the LOS issues if they are patient enough to do so, but all other classes have no recourse and find that they have wasted their time.

I think if the LOS issues could be solved, many other classes would attempt the gaurd missions and would overall liven RvR, especially during the odd hours.

If this topic is a dead horse now being repeatedly beaten, maybe the horse ain't dead yet? : )

hib and alb keeps is very difficult to set groundtarget up trhe walls to volley, but you are right, bow-classes can volley "guards" or "huscarls" out, if you know where to throw gt, with my visible chars i'll do guardmission while taking a small ram with me to knock down outer door..


why always people wanted to get rp's as a gift?;-)

OF keeps just suck. Oh and so does killing NPCs for rps.

Just out of curiosity, if you want RPs, why don't you make RvR instead of guard missions?

Ormilig wrote:Just out of curiosity, if you want RPs, why don't you make RvR instead of guard missions?

Invite him in grp ...

thronfeuer wrote:Invite him in grp ...

Thats the point.

Is that the only answer Blue got for Barnnys question(s)?

Maidrion wrote:Oh and so does killing NPCs for rps.

yes!

Ormilig wrote:Just out of curiosity, if you want RPs, why don't you make RvR instead of guard missions?

also yes!

thronfeuer wrote:Invite him in grp ...

made my day! :D

i <3 farming Aftermath

There are lots of reasons to do missions for RPs. #1, you might have a wife that might nag you out of any group. #2, you might be short on time, #3 you have a wife that nags your out of any group and #4, you might be using the missions to xp. Or #5, some people don't like RvR that much (that ain't me,) or #6, you might play a gimpy class and have little alternative. #7, you forgot to /xp off and now you're silly at RR2 cause you thought you could do it ALL in thid. Now you're stuck at a low RR.

That's about 5 valid reasons. There are at least 100 more wife/GF reasons.

Barnny wrote:There are lots of reasons to do missions for RPs. #1, you might have a wife that might nag you out of any group. #2, you might be short on time, #3 you have a wife that nags your out of any group and #4, you might be using the missions to xp. Or #5, some people don't like RvR that much (that ain't me,) or #6, you might play a gimpy class and have little alternative. #7, you forgot to /xp off and now you're silly at RR2 cause you thought you could do it ALL in thid. Now you're stuck at a low RR.

That's about 5 valid reasons. There are at least 100 more wife/GF reasons.

Did you marry my ex ?

Ithiggi wrote:

Barnny wrote:There are lots of reasons to do missions for RPs. #1, you might have a wife that might nag you out of any group. #2, you might be short on time, #3 you have a wife that nags your out of any group and #4, you might be using the missions to xp. Or #5, some people don't like RvR that much (that ain't me,) or #6, you might play a gimpy class and have little alternative. #7, you forgot to /xp off and now you're silly at RR2 cause you thought you could do it ALL in thid. Now you're stuck at a low RR.

That's about 5 valid reasons. There are at least 100 more wife/GF reasons.

Did you marry my ex ?

There's also the reason : You solo and made a guard task otw to your hotspot :p

LOS is quite sucky with the old keep thats right, but you cant do anything against it since NF keeps dont fit into OF maps. Better gonna get used to it.

GoGreen wrote:LOS is quite sucky with the old keep thats right, but you cant do anything against it since NF keeps dont fit into OF maps. Better gonna get used to it.

Actually LOS on Uthgard is not livelike. I know so because of footage from old vids that I've seen recently. I'm not gonna bother to look them up as we speak, but I just felt it was important to note that LOS issues are not solely related of OF keeps, but to Uthgard (and probably DOL) itself.

LOS is determined in the client, maybe Mythic changed it in a later patch? It depends from which point they measure the LOS. If its the head of a char all should be fine. DOL can do nothing about it as we use most current clients.

As long as you can see your target, you should have LOS. If thats not the case I would like to see why. Perhaps because of moving targets the LOS condition is very short? Or placement of guards is wrong?

It is caused by bad keeps design.