So Uthgard has quiet alot of players, but only a small percent joins rvr at 50.

Whats the reason for this?

Would be interesting to see why and could give the staff some ideas of things to improve.

So if you're one of those that stop rvr at 50 please give your reasons here.

It's getting really boring to fight always the same faces in emain

Just because people want to WIN or at least get a chance to.
And they can't vs thoses "faces" that camp Emain everyday.
Fresh new players (4L2) wouldn't be able to increase their RR because they wouldn't be able to beat the 10L+ grps.
Untill people will not get an alternative to this way of RR leveling,they will not move to endRVR and roll alts again and again till they get bored and stop DAOC.
The solution is to implement better keep/task reward,livelike.People will be able to "farm" Rps,and PvP players will be able to kill them on those hot spots.

One daily Zergleader and the problem will be solved. As soon as I can play again, I'm gonna try to start something

Low rr ppl grps have no endurance to fight those High rr ppls and for none Pro player is it real hard to get more rps.

The intersection from rr are much high now. And you guys saw yesterday how hard it is to fight high rr vs low rr if u play not ur high rr self. Make an RR reset

Some pro gamer Guilds are in the other pro gamer guilds too and changing their accounts often, if no enemys run so they farm their own realm mates.

QQ From adding low rrs to high rrs they call only 8vs8 but they really only want more rps. Some ppls real hypocrisy only will good 8vs8 fight, Real 8vs8 fighters never add a fight from two enemy realms, or farming solo/duo/trio. In ts you hear not wow what a nice fight you hear 100k to rr up...

Some ppl need bit more real life Sati/Flump

So much ppl only playing BG's is it over they change the realm or play a new char.

AND WTF when does come old ras now, new ras without Toa bonus

Make Keep fights more interesting. Endgame is RvR not 8vs8. OF keeps sucks but its not practicabel to put the NF keeps in it.

Too much ppl looking for their own Playing fun (looking to 8vs8 pros) but its an mmo and the game lives from the community.

cause there is nothing in OF for people who are low on realm rank... NF would be a better way for that.
more posibilities (keep sieges, tower sieges, much more places to hide.. and so on...
tell me one reason why a low player should go to emain....
First: i dont write for myself in this post.. i write for many others i know on uthgard.. and this are the most reasons:
1. no one will invite him in grp
2. when he try to solo, he get bashed at alb mile gate
3. Most people say "oh well.. when this player do his job good, we invite him also with lower rank... This is a myth only a few mates practise this
4. he has no chance to choose an alternative way like in NF
5. he dont have any places to hide.. no water no buildings.. nothing

the most highs qq about few players in RVR Zone... OK no prob.. but then tell lower players, why they should join emain or the other rvr zones...

Yes we had a hard time yesterday, but i think not because low rr but mostly cause most of use aren't used to play castergroup. And DG pushgrp was kinda hard training object for hib castergroup.

But yes it's kinda hard for low rr to compete with practised high rr groups. We are trying to form groups with low rr and get people on their low rr alts when there aren't strong groups out to avoid that people log when they face rr8+ group.
Just not possible always and after some wipes there are always some voices like: "Lets make a better setup, back to usual group etc."

I would also love to see more Keepfights and Zergs on Uthgard.

tbh i started here for OF, but after one year OF i have to admit that NF had alot of advantages

I would also love to see more Keepfights and Zergs on Uthgard

yes thats true.. but when lower players build a zerg against highs or adding fights, then they get flamed from own realm as n00bs and adders and so on... instead of support them a little bit. And exactly this flaming players complain about low population in rvr
Once they have a "bad standing" they will NEVER get any invite in future.
Thats Uthgard live !
And keepfights are not possible in OF

I dont think that most casual players log in to the forum and post their opinion. I just ve low RR Chars and can tell u thats a pain in the ass running into high rr grps without any chance. So low rr groups have to skip emain anyways and try to find ppl in hw or odins. Problem is, that it works some time till the high rr grps see more kill msgs in hw/odins than in emain, port there and just roll over those low rr groups

Heho,

I think i will try to build a zerg sometimes this week, just to see how it works even if i don't like zergs that much. OG is big enough for all which don't want to join the zerg.

Greetz Luydor

HEHO when you build a zerg how about you make YOUR group the one with lvl 45 characters and rr2 people instead of building a rr10 group and making a zerg with that as a base so that you get most realmpoints?

I think there are still people who remember how Rotbart got to rank11, he would build a group that was sure to get most of the realmpoints in a zerg and then he made a bg.

Paxx wrote:One daily Zergleader and the problem will be solved. As soon as I can play again, I'm gonna try to start something

I'm agreeing with Paxx. The low rr people need a zerg to gather a proper rr so they can 8vs8 themselves.

On live servers you had a group of zergers and a group of 8vs8. So both parties could have their fun. 8vs8 parties avoided the zerg or simply went to another zone. But Uthgard does not have enough ppl in RvR to actually have a zerg AND 8vs8.

So casual players, gather for zerg!

bentz wrote:
I'm agreeing with Paxx. The low rr people need a zerg to gather a proper rr so they can 8vs8 themselves.

Wrong. What i see from this thread is that low rr people need some high rr player building zerg for them.
If you want to zerg, just try to build one, why high rr should build a zerg to let low rr play in rvr? And maybe they are labeled as adders or leechers or noob like baww just did? This is a nonsense. QQing for no zergs and never tried to build one.

Moreover to rank in a zerg is not so fast as people think. Rank in a 8vs8 is way more fast, if you know how to play.
And if you don't know, you will not learn in a zerg.

Kaltess wrote:Just because people want to WIN or at least get a chance to.
And they can't vs thoses "faces" that camp Emain everyday.
Fresh new players (4L2) wouldn't be able to increase their RR because they wouldn't be able to beat the 10L+ grps.
Untill people will not get an alternative to this way of RR leveling,they will not move to endRVR and roll alts again and again till they get bored and stop DAOC.
The solution is to implement better keep/task reward,livelike.People will be able to "farm" Rps,and PvP players will be able to kill them on those hot spots.

Excatly, but solution : reset server !!!

Heho,

What would be wrong on making a rr10 group for zerg ^^ ? I think i will build the zerg with a highRR Char and long then to a twink maybe then it is more fun ^^.

Greetz Luydor

Celad wrote:Moreover to rank in a zerg is not so fast as people think. Rank in a 8vs8 is way more fast, if you know how to play.
And if you don't know, you will not learn in a zerg.

Damn it you are such a pro, you know how to get rps in 8vs8 fast. Thats why you have one char rr7 which is a hunter?

Luydor wrote:Heho,

What would be wrong on making a rr10 group for zerg ^^ ? I think i will build the zerg with a highRR Char and long then to a twink maybe then it is more fun ^^.

Greetz Luydor

No need for a one day zerg event.
If your guild mates and Edn just stop the annoying !Damn fu adders! spam, this would help much more.

Back to topic.
Main problem in Midgard is imo the permanent add flame.
Low RR people like to join the 2 high RR grps which are running. But if they join a low RR grp which adds fights, they are scared to never get invited into the high RR grps again.