Hi Guys,

first i want to introduce myself as a new (german) Player on Uthgard since early June this year. i started playing a druid named Ragy with some mates on this awesome classic server. i always looked for this way to play the old loved daoc as it was on his best times as i stoped playing in 2005 on the german server stonehenge in the realm hibernia.

unfortunetaly i never found out to play on the freeshard Urthgard

however to come to the point....

i formed a guild named "Emerald Riders" to create a pool of average skilled players to serve a stady hib 8vs8 group for the RVR on Urthgard.


I dont want to reveal our setup....you all who go 8vs8 will know when we start running out in late June or early July.

by now we are in the early 40's.

I really look forward to it and want to know which other groups are still activ playing - or better - what RVR on urthgard is like by now.

Sincerly,

Ragy

Hi hi,

From my observation the last few weeks when it comes to groups playing in Emain:

Alb: Rare & KT have guild groups out almost daily. Warlords have a group out later at night aswell regularly. Some days there's PUGs aswell, not regularly though.

Hib: I've seen Hexagone and Freefrags make guild groups often. Big pug scene in hib too I'd say.

Mid: GdRW & DG have guild grps out sometimes but only like two evenings per week. Telus A is a new grp that have been active for a few days now. Some pugs.

Anyway 8v8 action has been quite decent. Alb and mid groups tend to play fair, most hib groups tend to add and occasionally zerg.
Oh yeah and dozens of stealthers.

welcome

Welcome!

I hope to see you guys in RvR soon! Maidron's said everything you wanted to know about the RvR situation. I hope you're gonna play fair (Not adding on 8vs8), cause at the moment getting added all the time by Hexagone, Freefags and hib pugs makes RvR enough frustrating.

PS: Everyone can see your setup through the herald

Edit: I won't make another post to reply you noir, I'm sure nixian is wise enough to delete your offtopic post. And ofc I'll add you on 20vs1, there's no reason to play fair with someone who actually adds on our 8vs8 whenever he can. But again, the topic is "Hello we are a new guild, how is the rvr now?", not if vomi kills or doesn't kill noir.

haha vomii : i hope you will play fair <-- ROFL

Vomii send : even in 20v1 i will add you .. cheer

go reroll ranger imo

What is the convention on adding in 8vs8 situations? Does the 3rd group wait until the first groups fight it out and pick up the pieces of the winner (if they aren't the same realm)? Do they run away and come back after x minutes?

What is considered "fair"?

DexterLyvwern wrote:What is the convention on adding in 8vs8 situations? Does the 3rd group wait until the first groups fight it out and pick up the pieces of the winner (if they aren't the same realm)? Do they run away and come back after x minutes?

What is considered "fair"?

Well some people consider "fair" wait till enemy grp have finished their mates/other real enemy and then fight them while they have their ras/mana down, thats fair for them ^^ but eh! they do 8 vs 8!

DexterLyvwern wrote:What is the convention on adding in 8vs8 situations? Does the 3rd group wait until the first groups fight it out and pick up the pieces of the winner (if they aren't the same realm)? Do they run away and come back after x minutes?

What is considered "fair"?

I consider "fair" at least wait until one grp is 8/8 dead, better if you let em regroup and rebuff. Just don't turn a 8vs8 into a 16vs8

About adding on 8vs8 when both fgs are enemies well, I guess almost everyone does it and if it happens in the first part of the fight it may lead to an interesting battle.

vomi wrote:

DexterLyvwern wrote:What is the convention on adding in 8vs8 situations? Does the 3rd group wait until the first groups fight it out and pick up the pieces of the winner (if they aren't the same realm)? Do they run away and come back after x minutes?

What is considered "fair"?

I consider "fair" at least wait until one grp is 8/8 dead, better if you let em regroup and rebuff. Just don't turn a 8vs8 into a 16vs8

About adding on 8vs8 when both fgs are enemies well, I guess almost everyone does it and if it happens in the first part of the fight it may lead to an interesting battle.

So turning a fight from a 8vs8 to a 16vs8 isnt fair, but turning a 8vs8 into a 8vs8vs8 is fair? one grp will get sandwiched, so in my opinion thats not a fair fight

Fair is to let the winners win, not to add to leech 50 rp and emote skilled players...

It's not about "how" to play fair, it's all about respect.

If u gank 1 solo man in 20 u aren't fair but it's the game.

If add 1 vs 1 in 20 it's lamer (the same way for 8vs8).

Holavez

Smokey wrote:So turning a fight from a 8vs8 to a 16vs8 isnt fair, but turning a 8vs8 into a 8vs8vs8 is fair? one grp will get sandwiched, so in my opinion thats not a fair fight

this just your opinion, i find it ESSENTIAL in daoc to have nice 3ways
(and with nuff skill and kite, you can avoid a sandwich and build funny triangles or whatever)

Smokey wrote:

vomi wrote:

DexterLyvwern wrote:What is the convention on adding in 8vs8 situations? Does the 3rd group wait until the first groups fight it out and pick up the pieces of the winner (if they aren't the same realm)? Do they run away and come back after x minutes?

What is considered "fair"?

I consider "fair" at least wait until one grp is 8/8 dead, better if you let em regroup and rebuff. Just don't turn a 8vs8 into a 16vs8

About adding on 8vs8 when both fgs are enemies well, I guess almost everyone does it and if it happens in the first part of the fight it may lead to an interesting battle.

So turning a fight from a 8vs8 to a 16vs8 isnt fair, but turning a 8vs8 into a 8vs8vs8 is fair? one grp will get sandwiched, so in my opinion thats not a fair fight

If you are winning an 8 vs 8 and another fg come you still might have some chance to win it, although it might be kinda hard. If you are at the beginning of a 8 vs 8 fight and a third realm group add well yeah, you can be sandwiched and banged bad, but you can still play the fight kiting somewhere as Zappo said. I've done it some times and the resulted fight was very tactical (You had to think about the best time to push one group, retreat somewhere, switch realm target etc...).

There is not the "perfect fairness" in Daoc, for example 6 vs 8 isn't "fair", but you can't ask fg to don't kill 6man grp. It's all about setting up limits in order to let people have fun in rvr (tbh if I get added 4 times in a row by another hib fg and die I don't have much fun).. One reasonable limit is: "Don't add on 8 vs 8 (Except threeways), leave soloers/duos (Beside people who actually add you on 8 vs 8 fights) and leave greys".

Some people, even inside the same guild, might have different limits while some other people have no limits at all. Sometimes I saw some guild groups not adding on a threeway, sometimes I saw other guilds running in emain 2 fg stuck.

as far as that the topic wasn't "what is fair ?" you should stick to the real topic.

Welcome

Hey just wanted to say hi aswell i am xali and the hero of the emerald riders...

Hey Vomii!!!!! <3