Lagjumps (again...)

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Postby Iceer » Apr 18, 2010 15:00

Hi Folks!

Till yet, i fighted with 2 Alliance mates in Thidranki Battleground with my Berserker. What i experienced is, that many Guys there used Lagjumps to avoid chating hits. For example the Player "[Little white anon bunny]" (Lurikeen Eldritch) jumped around everytime we`ve met him and his group.

Everyone in my group can approve it (Guirling, Bjorha). I made a /callgm but got no answer (as everytime).

I heard, that Lagjumps got fixed, but they can still used and that is abusing in my opinion.

Do these People get banned or any penalty?

I'd like to hear something from the Staff too.

Please don't use names on people in such threads as it can cause a witchhunt

Nixian

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Postby nixian » Apr 18, 2010 15:03

If its proven that they do the lagjump on purpose and not just due to a bad connection they do get punished - have seen a few bans in my lifetime cuz of this reason..

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Postby Iceer » Apr 18, 2010 15:06

How can I prove that these Guys use it on purpose? Should I really run a videoprogramm everytime I run around in RvR Areas?

I think screenshots can't be that solution; any advices?

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Postby nixian » Apr 18, 2010 15:08

/callgm and hope a GM is on and have time..

they can monitor the player a lot better than a player can

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Postby Toblerone » Apr 18, 2010 15:30

Lagjump or just jumping through you ? If they jump through you I suggest you stop using /stick and actually play your character :wink:
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Postby Neju » Apr 18, 2010 15:52

loads of ppl lag jump.. actually abusing the lag rather than just jumping through :grin:

see it lots from people in groups im in, and also see it lots from enemies.

pretty impossible to stop :lol:
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Postby Glacius » Apr 18, 2010 21:49

Never on live jumping caused such a bug, you get target not in view and they ruin your style and RA s u r using. I ve encountered Akejode once at MMG in Emain: i went zerk + charge..i ve hit him 2 times unstyled in 15 seconds ..he kiled me with his feet after some succesful jumpings , i told Blue about it..he said it is caused by the lag + something else and that in the past some players use drag window aswell etc but that bug got solved, well this one still stands.

We dont care whats causing it, make it stop, change something in the way jump is implemented i dunno, you cant play and be a policeman 24/7 at the same time, what fun is that?


PS : So what if we use names ??! Let the ppl see who r the ones who bugabuse so every1 can know and watch them, if we hide the thiefes and we help them u think the server will be a better place Nixian ? I dont think so.
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Postby Zarkor » Apr 18, 2010 21:50

The delay did some bad work here aswell it seems...

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Postby Glacius » Apr 18, 2010 21:55

Zarkor wrote:The delay did some bad work here aswell it seems...


This is before the delay change. My fight with [A little nice bunny which name I will not say because the kind Nixian told me not to] was 2 months ago.
And i ve got player not in view even when i stick a player liek a skald and he just jumps, the lag lifts him so high up that i got him " X not in view".

There was a way on live to jump on tall buildings, using the /changecraft for midg uthg ..on pvp server doing that + jump wil catapult u v high, that bug got solved , was the only 1 i know, here ppl just jump as it seems + lag, GM s should do something about it.


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Postby Toblerone » Apr 18, 2010 22:09

Running/jumping through tanks is perfectly acceptable. I've been using it on live, everybody did and nobody ever got banned for it as far as I know. If tanks can run through casters to avoid quickcasts/moc, why shouldn't casters be allowed to do the same ? Do you expect them to stand still and wait to die ? Only difference is tanks can actually counter jumpthrough/runthroughs that by not being stupid (control your character instead of just doing /stick and mashing styles), it's harder for a mage who has to stand still while doing his work.

I've personally been accused by lots of people for using various exploits here for lagjumping etc. (especially since I posted a video of myself playing mages), heard wild accusations that I windowdrag, spam the screenshot button and whatnot when the only two buttons I use are the mouselook and spacebar.

Here's a lesson for all you kiddies out there playing tanks: don't press stick once, bash away on style buttons and hope for the best, it's better that you control your character. As simple and effective as it may be most of the time, sometimes you'll just run into better players and accuse them of exploits just because you got outplayed. Yeah playing a tank is the easiest thing to do in daoc, but if you really want to play it good you'll first have to learn to control it, and not rely on just stick. That control also includes the vewy vewy evil strafing, and the only people accusing that of being an exploit are the very same people who can't master that ability (or are too lazy to) and often lose to people who do. And no strafing is not /stick and use strafe left or right buttons.
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Postby Night » Apr 18, 2010 22:29

think the prob wasnt the strafe or runaway
but aswell the jumping same jumpstyles that alowes u to get up stairs in df

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Postby Iceer » Apr 18, 2010 23:15

Toblerone wrote:Here's a lesson for all you kiddies out there playing tanks: don't press stick once, bash away on style buttons and hope for the best, it's better that you control your character. As simple and effective as it may be most of the time, sometimes you'll just run into better players and accuse them of exploits just because you got outplayed. Yeah playing a tank is the easiest thing to do in daoc, but if you really want to play it good you'll first have to learn to control it, and not rely on just stick. That control also includes the vewy vewy evil strafing, and the only people accusing that of being an exploit are the very same people who can't master that ability (or are too lazy to) and often lose to people who do. And no strafing is not /stick and use strafe left or right buttons.


Here is a lesson for you kiddie.

I face, take a step back and use rightclick panel to put target in hitrange.

This works when only 1 Guy does Lagjumps. Is it impossible to hit anything when there are more than 2 Guys attacking your or standing by and usig lagjumps as this Hibgroup does. Well, we won because we had 2 Caster, our melees couldnt touch them when they were more than just 1.

This abuse is very annoying and an unfair advantage too. Its like lagjumping up the Stairs in Darkness Falls (which i proved with a video too..).

Should be banned in my Opinion.

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Postby Kaltess » Apr 19, 2010 10:07

The people using side and back style when in front should be ban too!
I'm talking about many ranger and valewalker using this kind of straff lag abuse.

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Postby bawww » Apr 19, 2010 11:02

Kaltess wrote:The people using side and back style when in front should be ban too!
I'm talking about many ranger and valewalker using this kind of straff lag abuse.



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Postby Ragabbash » Apr 19, 2010 11:30

Kaltess wrote:The people using side and back style when in front should be ban too!
I'm talking about many ranger and valewalker using this kind of straff lag abuse.


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