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Postby none1 » Feb 07, 2010 00:23

instead of making "more like to live" better think of real ballance. everything here is imballanced. impossible to play for alb.
i'm tired of dying all time because everyone on him/mid just have skills i can't resist to. If you want i can list everything that i think is "out of ballnce"

but well.. staff don't play alb so it's just a dream to see alb classes to show resistance and 50/100 chance to win.

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Postby Neju » Feb 07, 2010 00:29

hib say mid is op, alb say hib/mid is op, mid say everything balanced!

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Postby yukiz » Feb 07, 2010 00:38

i agree.
let's see a bit.
from infi side: sb has 100% chance to win infi if PA was not laid to sb. even with 10% melee relic bonus sb always win. melee ranger has 90% chance to win infi even when he got PA'd. Skald has 70% chance to kill infi after PA.
Alb/mid side: Hib has Prismatic Strobe spell. After it you can just relax in the chair and see you dying.
Mid classes has instant mez spell. But you can do something after mezz was broken.
bg infi side: no suitable stun style before lvl 50. it's pretty annoying when you see sb/ns can stun you after you evade in bg. celtic dual has side stun style.
sb>infi>ns. make them ballanced. make other ballanced. give other classes chance to win against same class in opposite realm. think something.
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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 00:41

Neju wrote:hib say mid is op, alb say hib/mid is op, mid say everything balanced!


What about people who play all 3 realms and still see obvious imbalances ?

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Postby yukiz » Feb 07, 2010 00:45

ait's funny to see, that on live albs always were concidered as "zerg", but on uth, alb is always outnumbered. 1 fg albs against 3 fg hibs/mids? Well it's quite comon on uth!

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Postby none1 » Feb 07, 2010 00:57

yukiz wrote:ait's funny to see, that on live albs always were concidered as "zerg", but on uth, alb is always outnumbered. 1 fg albs against 3 fg hibs/mids? Well it's quite comon on uth!

it's just because alot of people after they see that alb classes sux alot switch for mid/hib.

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Postby JackPriest » Feb 07, 2010 01:14

Jeah today i got a 460dmg hit from 2h warri against my Sorc with SC, at cap speed in Alb i didn't know any tank who can compete with that. So the most players switch to easymode^^. Btw Infi got stun before 50 2or3 sec ^^.

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Postby Amadeth » Feb 07, 2010 01:18

Neju wrote:hib say mid is op, alb say hib/mid is op, mid say everything balanced!

I don't say Hib is OP :?
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Postby Musikus » Feb 07, 2010 01:23

Toblerone wrote:
Neju wrote:hib say mid is op, alb say hib/mid is op, mid say everything balanced!


What about people who play all 3 realms and still see obvious imbalances ?


well, ppl who play in all realms and have thatfor a bit more ''knowledge'' about enenmys abilitys got:

laughed
spammed
flamed (from all realms)
threaten
..
and after a few sites of ****** in their topic its closed to forget the topic they opend when they want to display obvious imbalances.

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Postby nubrin » Feb 07, 2010 01:51

yes, mids easymode, population doesnt lie , imo ,...

but you cant compare all 3 realms ,
you cant compare classes one with another (this isnt wow, and im happy about it ;P )
you cant mention celerity or mid in generel to be overpowered.
there are several things in mid that are very attractiv

but as some other player said before ,.. its not the lack of skill or unbalance of classes ,.. just check /who 50 in all 3 realms at one time

you still see good alb hybrid or caster setups winning
same with hibs

i would prefer playing mid ,. too .. but well ,.. its already bad , why make it worse

or why not , lets all play mid xD

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 01:59

You can't compare classes but you can compare abilities. What's the only ability that's not shared between all 3 realms only exclusive to midgard. Oh yeah that's right :wink:

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Postby Neju » Feb 07, 2010 02:02

Theurgist pets aren't shared between realms...

so the whole : MID IS THE ONLY REALM WITH A UNIQUE ABILITY!!!!!!!

doesn't really stand up

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Postby Herm666 » Feb 07, 2010 02:09

Neju wrote:hib say mid is op, alb say hib/mid is op, mid say everything balanced!


No, alb and hib says mid is op.
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Postby nubrin » Feb 07, 2010 02:27

yukiz wrote:i agree.
let's see a bit.
from infi side: sb has 100% chance to win infi if PA was not laid to sb. even with 10% melee relic bonus sb always win. melee ranger has 90% chance to win infi even when he got PA'd. Skald has 70% chance to kill infi after PA.
Alb/mid side: Hib has Prismatic Strobe spell. After it you can just relax in the chair and see you dying.
Mid classes has instant mez spell. But you can do something after mezz was broken.
bg infi side: no suitable stun style before lvl 50. it's pretty annoying when you see sb/ns can stun you after you evade in bg. celtic dual has side stun style.
sb>infi>ns. make them ballanced. make other ballanced. give other classes chance to win against same class in opposite realm. think something.


you say : alb/mid is underpowered because lacking 9sec castable stun?
http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder2.cfm?Cleric
check out smiting baseline
http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder2.cfm?Healer
pacification baseline

if you ask cleric/healer to /assist stun when they can and they dont even try ,.. they re no good healer/clerics
in exchange hib casters dont got root / mostly no other CC
you can go through this till you listed every ability but it leads to nothing


you say : mids got instant mezz? hib got it too, albs got bolt range mezz
but thats not the point , all realms got different classes and different kinds to mezz, go play wow if you dont want classes of enemies realm(s) to differ

about that sb>infi>ns : check out highest RR sb/infi/ns ,.. somehow they did kills ,..
maybe you should get some buff pots/charges , at least d/q charge and haste buff is a must have ,. then add str/con dex and con pot and maybe something changes with your experiences
or try blade spec! , at least sbs will be very dead after PA CD and few more hits, sure you lose stun but increase your dmg by 15%
http://camelotvault.ign.com/wiki/index. ... ist_tables

also reading a guide isnt a shame

gear+buffs+player skill+situation on inc
(who starts first, who got the better start)
make you lose or win (on a 1vs1)

which class you are playing and which you are fighting takes influence too
there are classes that can't defeat other classes unless those other classes do big mistakes/cant handle their class.

how about reading more about daocs class abilities and .....

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Postby nubrin » Feb 07, 2010 02:44

Neju wrote:Theurgist pets aren't shared between realms...

so the whole : MID IS THE ONLY REALM WITH A UNIQUE ABILITY!!!!!!!

doesn't really stand up


yap , there are many things:
spec af buff (alb)
spec af chant (higher value) (alb)
ablativ chant (alb)
instant ae amnesie (hib)
instant single amnesie (hib)
instant stun (mid)
instant ae stun (mid)
bet there are more things

animists (btw i never understood why bombers got nerfed, but viper isn't)
and not understanding why its nerfed this hard that its not even woerth casting unless you see someone that didnt see you , but you dont need those 2-3extra casts then anyway ;P
i mean , you could just take dd bombers out , wont make a difference ,.. those who use them didnt notice lifedrain does more dmg with a faster castspeed

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