As i realized, only Healer got celerity (second, stacking hastebuff).
why? if it got fixed anyway and it was given to Warden/Pala too`?
Because we got patch situation xy and it was like that?
Adaption is hard, i gusss and there are always qq ing ppl, but finally, it got changed, this should happen here too
I dont understand, why u are fixed on those patchsituations, every time.....(could understand it from technical side)
Already any discussions running?
In my opinion, take it away from mids, or give it to all realms....
1 reason, why midtank (nearly all of em) grps got higher dm output/s.
There are xxxx other reasons but i guess, this could help
Thanks for informations

hf

Celerity is on healer.

And it has short range, so much of the time the pushing tanks - Zerk/Svg, (Skald) don't have it have it on permanently.

Even tho this guy abuses drugs (obviously) he still sees the imbalance when other realms don't have celerity. Word.

Neju wrote:Celerity is on healer.

And it has short range, so much of the time the pushing tanks - Zerk/Svg, (Skald) don't have it have it on permanently.

Pala/warden celerity have 350 aoe and last 5 seconds. Healer one has 1000 and lasts 30 seconds.

Toblerone wrote:
Pala/warden celerity have 350 aoe and last 5 seconds. Healer one has 1000 and lasts 30 seconds.

Sorry, I must have missed the part where pala/warden had celerity on this server

As i heard, they have never had cele here on uthgard.... (no need to be true)
i dont care abut amount/range etc actually, only about the basic question, All or only one?

As i realized, only Theurgist got pet spam interuption.
As i realized, the realms in DAoC are not identical.
why? if it got fixed anyway and it was made good balanced server?

hf

Pala/warden celerity is a chant.

Neju wrote:Celerity is on healer.

And it has short range, so much of the time the pushing tanks - Zerk/Svg, (Skald) don't have it have it on permanently.

Ah yes that is the excuse mids always have ("yeah we have celerity, but our support is bad so we don't have it permanently, duh.") or the one where they claim mid is a tank realm so no one else should have celerity.

hopscotsch wrote:As i realized, only Theurgist got pet spam interuption.
As i realized, the realms in DAoC are not identical.
why? if it got fixed anyway and it was made good balanced server?

hf

yes it was.

Neju wrote:

Toblerone wrote:
Pala/warden celerity have 350 aoe and last 5 seconds. Healer one has 1000 and lasts 30 seconds.

Sorry, I must have missed the part where pala/warden had celerity on this server

They don't, which is the point of this thread ?

hopscotsch wrote:As i realized, only Theurgist got pet spam interuption.

You do realize that the theurgist can be rupted and their pets die quite easily ?

celerity on wardens and paladins was a 1.80+ change and will most likely never come on uthgard

Always the same.. every realm get features, fixed to negative side....
If this eventually happens to op-Midgard, whole mids start qq (which are many)

U say, midgard is tankrealm, so they should have it.
I say, midgard is tankrealm, so they should not have it

Man always think, other ppl/realms get a better situation it was only a discussion.... No realm is identical and it will never be completely, but there is no reason NOT to try it....
albs got theurgpets, mids got whole grps of tanks/chain wearing supporter (at least 1 rm, as clothwearing char), mids can fit all needed utility into 4 classes (2xhealer,schaman,skald) while other realms need 5+ classes to get the utility alb:2xkleri,sorc,minstrel and still some missing..... same with hibs. this is no qq simply a contra argumentation against: Alb got Theurgpets ;P

Hf hug

bawww wrote:Ah yes that is the excuse mids always have ("yeah we have celerity, but our support is bad so we don't have it permanently, duh.")

Come play aug and show us you're so mighty skill in giving cele all fight long, i'll be glad to see it.

You know that Midgard have one pac and one aug in group? And you know that the pac need to mezz/root and rupt like a sorc or a bard should do. And we all know that the aug should give perma cele so be at 1K range of tank all fight long without being rupt or get train.

I really wonder how the main heal healer should be able to be so close to fight and heal on the same time but maybe you can show us because you're so skilled.

Oh yes i forget, midgard is OP realm so they can cast under rupt, under train (because they take no damage).

To say ****** like that, you really have never played a aug, neither a heal support.

And to come back to subject, don't you think to put cele on a support is kinda different to give it to a tank?! Let's adapt realm yes, i want cele on skald, pala and warden. Let's go, it will be more balance for all.

Think a little guys or stop QQ and go play.

Vashna wrote:

bawww wrote:And to come back to subject, don't you think to put cele on a support is kinda different to give it to a tank?! Let's adapt realm yes, i want cele on skald, pala and warden. Let's go, it will be more balance for all.

Did i say that i any way? Its a good argument, but its quite rare that paladin/warden are runnind in assistrain, they are working more in defense.
Another point is, it would be 1 of the Chants of Pala/Warden they could switch, nearly impossible to hold em up all time.
If u check out the difference, Alb/hib 350 range, chant,
mid 2sec casttime with 1000 range (live 1500?) duration 20 secs.

Belonging to class utility and how hard it is to play, ive played pachealer, im also playing cleric. Healer need to cc/heal/demezz/rebuff, cleric needs to heal/shear/rebuff (without having any possibilities to get rid of tanks/etc going for u).....
Unimportant which class u play, u always got enough to do and more utility gives u more possibilities.
Only thing i said was:
Of all wonderfull Daoc Realms,
its the easiest way to get a good Midgard temp together its always better to have everything and get in trouble with all of it, than have something important missing

thx, hf

Vashna wrote:Let's adapt realm yes, i want cele on skald, pala and warden. Let's go, it will be more balance for all.

there you go. see? you can be reasonable.

nixian wrote:celerity on wardens and paladins was a 1.80+ change and will most likely never come on uthgard

ok, thanks
Anyway I dont get it, maiby it got changed, because they realized its not kind of fair? and wouldn 't it be a big mistake, to stay focused on that Patch version, in that case?
Or is it simply a technical problem sth like that?

thx, hf

Jojoner wrote:

nixian wrote:celerity on wardens and paladins was a 1.80+ change and will most likely never come on uthgard

ok, thanks
Anyway I dont get it, maiby it got changed, because they realized its not kind of fair? and wouldn 't it be a big mistake, to stay focused on that Patch version, in that case?
Or is it simply a technical problem sth like that?

thx, hf

decision made long time ago as a emergency stop because many unwanted requests were made (such as celerity for all sides, friar heal styles, thanes dd styles, etc)

this is classic daoc - meaning there will be imbalances between the realms - this is somewhat unfixable while keeping a classic setting