riding trough 4 groups fighting between amg and mmg is a very realistic rvr feeling... -.-

some guys mezzed and aoed around there but seems you cant be hit/demounted from horses as promised?

I would like to have a horse route from mtk to amg because I do not want to run on my own...

This feature, as it is, is bullshit. I would understand a route to crimt or bolg, but through emain back to that lake... come on...

Galandriel wrote:some guys mezzed and aoed around there but seems you cant be hit/demounted from horses as promised?

This is not intended. Bug.

The horse routes have been shortened to not cross the AMG.

To balance Alb/Mid times against Hib this will require 1 minute more porter delay again.

Is it possible to change the horses, into some other flying animale, to avoid the stealth zerg on the route to emain?

Because it's full of enemies.. and only hibbs have the stealth zerg on the route, so it isn't fair and equal behaviour for every body. Instead a flight route, could be a fair via to get emain, like teleport.

Sorry if i have forgotten to read this in any aprt of the forum..

my2 cents.

Blue wrote:The horse routes have been shortened to not cross the AMG.

To balance Alb/Mid times against Hib this will require 1 minute more porter delay again.

Make horse faster XDD.

Lornur wrote:Is it possible to change the horses, into some other flying animale, to avoid the stealth zerg on the route to emain?

Because it's full of enemies.. and only hibbs have the stealth zerg on the route, so it isn't fair and equal behaviour for every body. Instead a flight route, could be a fair via to get emain, like teleport.

Sorry if i have forgotten to read this in any aprt of the forum..

my2 cents.

go hadrian's wall or odin's gate

Lornur wrote:Is it possible to change the horses, into some other flying animale, to avoid the stealth zerg on the route to emain?

Because it's full of enemies.. and only hibbs have the stealth zerg on the route, so it isn't fair and equal behaviour for every body. Instead a flight route, could be a fair via to get emain, like teleport.

Sorry if i have forgotten to read this in any aprt of the forum..

my2 cents.

its fun to farm poor poor riding hibs on their way to emain now

you have the choice

port time 2 minutes is only a little step away to instant ports : (

Horseroutes feeling bad. I dont like it.
Stealthers outrunning us while running with bardspeed, groups of adds adding 8vs8 while fighting near a horseroute.

This is becoming more and more stealthlove Uthgard: My Pet beeing easily outrun by Stealthers infight without chance to get them till they stealth again, vanish doing "strange" things while stunned, Potions and Charges killing the need to port back to Buffbot. Now there are even horserouting giving the chance to add even faster.
All these changes making Uthgard a pain for (non epic) Groups. I had no single fight last night which was not majorly influenced by stealthadds - and this causing major group frustration.

Horseroutes and reduced Porttimes during primetime into already well populated zones like emain messes everything up.
Why do u come up with awful custom changes like this without making it "livelike" (means: no second port after first one)?
Sorry, i dont see it. I dont like it. Please make it stop - better in total or at least like when more than 16 ppls running in this particular frontier.

stop whinging on lol.
so, now we have emain for zerg/stealther action.

why not not 8v8 in hadrians!?!

Runis wrote:

Lornur wrote:Is it possible to change the horses, into some other flying animale, to avoid the stealth zerg on the route to emain?

Because it's full of enemies.. and only hibbs have the stealth zerg on the route, so it isn't fair and equal behaviour for every body. Instead a flight route, could be a fair via to get emain, like teleport.

Sorry if i have forgotten to read this in any aprt of the forum..

my2 cents.

go hadrian's wall or odin's gate

Runis like bix said, probably a lot of hibbs reroll on other realm or leave for an unfair threatment by comunity... if you want to inc only alb, this could be the way.

Bizaflare wrote:Horseroutes feeling bad. I dont like it.
Stealthers outrunning us while running with bardspeed, groups of adds adding 8vs8 while fighting near a horseroute.

This is becoming more and more stealthlove Uthgard: My Pet beeing easily outrun by Stealthers infight without chance to get them till they stealth again, vanish doing "strange" things while stunned, Potions and Charges killing the need to port back to Buffbot. Now there are even horserouting giving the chance to add even faster.
All these changes making Uthgard a pain for (non epic) Groups. I had no single fight last night which was not majorly influenced by stealthadds - and this causing major group frustration.

Horseroutes and reduced Porttimes during primetime into already well populated zones like emain messes everything up.
Why do u come up with awful custom changes like this without making it "livelike" (means: no second port after first one)?
Sorry, i dont see it. I dont like it. Please make it stop - better in total or at least like when more than 16 ppls running in this particular frontier.

There is one vital change missing to make this work as it is supposed to: shifting solo and smallman action during primetime to Odin's. The entire reason you are getting 'annoyed' by so many stealthers is because they don't have an incentive to actually solo instead of zerg AMG. There's no action anywhere else for a solo player.

This change would be the BP bonus for solos and smallman in Odin's during primetime. Offpeak hours no bonus or bonus in Emain should work. This way a lot of those players will go do their thing in Odin's instead, which is where visible solos will manage to actually RvR instead of run+/rel, run+/rel, ... Which makes it more attractive for those stealthers aswell.


Reducing port timers isn't a bad change at all imo and the horse routes are fine as they are now (at least in Hib). All this just lacks the incentive for solos and smallman to switch to Odin's in primetime instead of zerging AMG. This is also partially caused by the disappearance of visible solos because of no real solo possibility in the first place. Visible solos will be the first to take the initiative by going Odin's because they won't survive a stealth zerg OR any visible grp bigger than 3.



In the end, Emain will remain a free ticket to zerg RvR, as it always was. Call it the OF's BG zone (without insta ports ofc ^^). If you want cleaner 8v8 fights, try to lure em out by raiding some keeps with your FG in Hadrians for instance. You can't expect pure 8v8s in BGs either.

Bizaflare wrote:Why do u come up with awful custom changes like this without making it "livelike" (means: no second port after first one)?
Sorry, i dont see it. I dont like it. Please make it stop - better in total or at least like when more than 16 ppls running in this particular frontier.

I can tell you why this happened.
Because people who are against such custom changes weren't actively participating in those glorious whine threads like "Dead RvR" or "A month of OF RvR".
It's easy to believe that everyone wants that changes, if almost none posts negative opinions.
That's the tragedy here. While unsatisfied players flood the board, the others play happily on the server.

infi wrote:Because people who are against such custom changes weren't actively participating in those glorious whine threads like "Dead RvR" or "A month of OF RvR".
It's easy to believe that everyone wants that changes, if almost none posts negative opinions.
That's the tragedy here. While unsatisfied players flood the board, the others play happily on the server.

QFT

infi wrote:

Bizaflare wrote:Why do u come up with awful custom changes like this without making it "livelike" (means: no second port after first one)?
Sorry, i dont see it. I dont like it. Please make it stop - better in total or at least like when more than 16 ppls running in this particular frontier.

I can tell you why this happened.
Because people who are against such custom changes weren't actively participating in those glorious whine threads like "Dead RvR" or "A month of OF RvR".
It's easy to believe that everyone wants that changes, if almost none posts negative opinions.
That's the tragedy here. While unsatisfied players flood the board, the others play happily on the server.

No, those players just don't solo or at least don't try to do so actively, especially not with a visible class.

I was probably the most apparent poster in those topics because I had felt the (visible) solo situation for myself, while having experienced group RvR aswell. I stated many times that on primetime, group RvR was quite ok and not in need of many if any changes.


Whenever the horse routes interfere with group RvR, which is in no way intended, by things like horses entering Emain, being able to be stealthed on a horse or not being able to drop the player on that horse with combat than it should not be intended.

However, if none of this is the case, group players whining about changes which hardly interfere with their playstyle for no reason other than whining about the fact that 'they don't like the way it looks' or similar trivial matters is simply arrogant and egoistic. The fact that your playstyle works in OF doesn't mean you therefore have to be opposed to any changes made in the name of other playstyles.


Edit: you said so yourself: "While unsatisfied players flood the board, the rest plays happily on the server."

The only difference is, most players who are unsatisfied now are unsatisfied because of an unintended interferance with their gameplay. If that's not the case, then see above.




PS: The second port imo is indeed a welcome addition, however I don't port regularly enough to give any meaningful comment on comparing the 6 minute vs 8 minute timer to the 8 minute timer with a second port.