Heard today from somebody that you can get banned (maybe just IRC banned) for communicating anything rvr in IRC, why is this? If RvR is slow, it seems that telling other realms not to log out b/c theres still action out in so and zone that the RvR might not quite be as dead.

Im sure there are people online that would like to RvR at some offpeak hours but think that theres no action. Being able to talk to another realm and see if anyone is running helps that. It might not be huge help but I don't see how it can hurt. You dont have to tell them exact location or anything promoting RP farming, but if I am in a pug and want to fight something - anything, it would be nice if the other realms knew that we were out, and I knew they were out so we dont just suicide on a PK/BK.

Because it's just one (very small) step from there to arranging fights.

and? Would anyone that reguarly rvr actually care if group A said ya come to badger hill to group B?

Nymeros wrote:Because it's just one (very small) step from there to arranging fights.

which was a part of live during the times of OF, and also currently.

rufi83 wrote:and? Would anyone that reguarly rvr actually care if group A said ya come to badger hill to group B?

yes


why you ask?


arranged fights could be used as an excuse for RP farming

and arranged fights is not rvr.. that is set up duels (8v8 duel yes but still a duel)


wont ever be allowed

Oh, I see. It isn't real RvR. That's what running apk->amg->apk-amg-apk-amg is, right? I'm talking about using IRC as a means to let groups know there is stuff out there to fight, so they don't log off and this servers rvr doesn't die out.

rufi83 wrote:Oh, I see. It isn't real RvR. That's what running apk->amg->apk-amg-apk-amg is, right? I'm talking about using IRC as a means to let groups know there is stuff out there to fight, so they don't log off and this servers rvr doesn't die out.

No, no they don't want you to prevent RvR from dying out... It's bad!

If the staff allowed this I'd quit in an instant, and I'm not alone in this. If OF needs IRC-arranged fights to function then there is something seriously wrong with it.

Nymeros wrote:If the staff allowed this I'd quit in an instant, and I'm not alone in this. If OF needs IRC-arranged fights to function then there is something seriously wrong with it.

Ehm not arranged, simply the possibility to say "hey, we're still here, just waiting since our healer missed the port".

That's something completely different than: "looking for soloer to fight at loc xxxxx,xxxxx in Odins Gate".

It's the same thing, minus the loc but plus speed 5 or 6 and the knowledge through which realm gate you are inc. Trust me, this is much different then designating a solo zone or even talking about frequent RvR spots on the forums (of which I am in favor of).

And NF didn't need this, IMO it's just another indicator that something is very wrong with OF on Uthgard.

Nymeros wrote:It's the same thing, minus the loc but plus speed 5 or 6 and the knowledge through which realm gate you are inc. Trust me, this is much different then designating a solo zone or even talking about frequent RvR spots on the forums (of which I am in favor of).

And NF didn't need this, IMO it's just another indicator that something is very wrong with OF on Uthgard.

NF had its own problems

1. soloing = impossible for visible at prime time from what some wrote
2. 3 zones close to agra not used much
3. etc

OF has its own problems too

the thing is.. I believe OF has a much better ability to do something about this

a simply solution could be:

1. add the horse routes / shortened timers when X number of players was in OF and "remove" them when there were too many
2. add a bonus to grps under 4 players in odins OR hadrians (not both)
3. do something to make "non rvr'ers" wanna go to rvr

I hear a lot of players not wanting to go to rvr because they say they cant find grps easy - this is a community issue i think though

1-2-3 go and I think a lot would change

1.) Wrong. I soloed as a visible all the time as a friar, and many other visibles soloed, even casters. I can't even believe someone would actually seriously write something like this, and putting "from what some wrote" at the end doesn't excuse you because those "some" are clearly idiots.

2.) What is used in OF? Let's start from Emain. ops, might as well end there too.

3.) lawl, according to some.


I won't even number the problems with OF because they've been pointed out so many times here. As I've already said many times: If the staff want to customize OF to make it better, go for it. But as with many other issues here on Uth, they seem unwilling to do so. Something has to be done, either a major improvement to OF or a return to NF, or this server will become the largest PvE/semi-afk/crafting, oh, and almost forgot: ZERG freeshard in history.

Please not another thread about OF! Stick to OF threads please. The things I hear now are the same I heard when we had NF until we introduced instant ports and converted Agramon into a BG.

IRC to arrange RvR is forbidden. If you don't find enemies go to Emain AMG.

have u ever been to emain amg urself blue? damn this theoretical thinking always ... get some practical experience then u know what has to be done and not to be done

I really don't see any harm in a simple "hey, we are still in emain, just had to replace one slot" or something like that, as long as it doesn't end up in arrangements like "meet us at mmg".