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jrhadden
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Postby jrhadden » Nov 14, 2009 16:11

Old Frontiers:

- we have 3 non-overlap battlegrounds.

- the enemy battlegrounds can be teleported with up to 8min delay

- your own realm battlegrounds only be accessed by "walking"

- the entrance of the enemy battlegrounds is defended by a SINGLE milegate.

side-changes:
- porting into capitol-cities, houses, non-level50 BGs are on same teleport timer.

Effects:

- long porting/walking times

- time for inc (unless u go to emain amg) huge, epecially since u dont get killmsg from the other 2 battlegrounds

- a single milegate = no chance to evade this gate , if u want to pass
-> easy to camp, easily kills RvR (since most other zones are empty).
e.g. imagine a strong FG camping emain amg. No chance for soloer/smallgroups to pass. You cannot directly port out into different zone. And even IF you go by bloodgate+rezzsick+teleport delay . You still have to find inc in one of the other zones.

- huge "free" xp zones with bonus, where there is little danger

- lack of casting mobs in "enemy" battlegrounds. e.g.
Odin doesnt offer any casting pets for sorcs. Unbalance for charming-classes.

- due to the long walking time. Highly reduced non-speeder RvR

- no chance to defend your keeps under siege. Since you cant reach them on time.

Outlook:

- much more group rvr /zerging

- much more stealthers

- playing for people not in FG or beeing stealther becomes more time-consuming

- once the hype-slaughtering ends. And the PvM guys go back to their buisness situation will become even more polarized.

Can we change something^^?

- include more porters

- change to NF porters

- change spawning

- reduces number of zones

- change map°° (we need alternatives to move, not alternatives to port when we are fed up with RvR. The current map-setting is nothing else than splitting rvr pupolution into battlegrounds. Where we have more delay due to porting etc.)

- make porting to camelot, housing and small BGs independent from OF porter.

Just my 50.cents of QQ

Greetz
Nes

ps. 3 hours of roaming yesterday/today in HW/ODIN : 4 incs.
3bble of xp (levle42).
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Postby Nymeros » Nov 14, 2009 16:16

Agreed with everything. :D

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Runis
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Postby Runis » Nov 14, 2009 16:22

Did someone played OF before asking for it?

- Port time is 8 min instead of 15.
- The hotspot is emain, and all people know it - easy to find inc.
- If you dont like to pass the SINGLE emain milegate just go odins or hadrians and take a keep
- Reducing the zones is not good, because if the server population will grow due to OF emain will be too small.

This OF meant, a big zerg emain amg. Just like in the old days. I will never understand why people cant RvR in NF and they can in OF, should not be about maps, should be just RvR, but some are too nostalgic to understand it.

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Postby DanGer666 » Nov 14, 2009 16:30

what about just deleting the milegates,so its open terrain?

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Postby vangonaj » Nov 14, 2009 16:39

DanGer666 wrote:what about just deleting the milegates,so its open terrain?


Is imposible delate milegates they are part of map. Only can door and doors was delated by mythic.

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Postby jrhadden » Nov 14, 2009 16:42

I remember that we had once a keep in agra, which has been removed. So just walls are a problem :) ?

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Postby vangonaj » Nov 14, 2009 16:43

jrhadden wrote:I remember that we had once a keep in agra, which has been removed. So just walls are a problem :) ?

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Walls are part of terrain you must remodelate all map.

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Postby CalvoHP » Nov 14, 2009 17:10

agree, on everything in the first post by Nes (here comes a comment but im selfcensored :P )

maybe its time that we finally start thinking in RvR as only 8vs8 or solo vs solo, this map layout makes me think in somehow Mythic designed the game for ZergVSzerg^^

still would be nice to see alll realms running in numbers acording to population, sometimes i wonder what are thinking the 2-3groups who run sticked for hours and log out couse they didnt find decent incs.

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Postby vangonaj » Nov 14, 2009 17:18

CalvoHP wrote:agree, on everything in the first post by Nes (here comes a comment but im selfcensored :P )

maybe its time that we finally start thinking in RvR as only 8vs8 or solo vs solo, this map layout makes me think in somehow Mythic designed the game for ZergVSzerg^^

still would be nice to see alll realms running in numbers acording to population, sometimes i wonder what are thinking the 2-3groups who run sticked for hours and log out couse they didnt find decent incs.


DAoC was designed for zergs. Later people start run solo and in litle groups.

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Postby Gulo » Nov 14, 2009 17:29

Current porters are really bad =/. It's not fun to wait them so long...

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Postby Der_Eisbaer » Nov 14, 2009 18:23

CalvoHP wrote:agree, on everything in the first post by Nes (here comes a comment but im selfcensored :P )

maybe its time that we finally start thinking in RvR as only 8vs8 or solo vs solo, this map layout makes me think in somehow Mythic designed the game for ZergVSzerg^^

still would be nice to see alll realms running in numbers acording to population, sometimes i wonder what are thinking the 2-3groups who run sticked for hours and log out couse they didnt find decent incs.


The game is RvR, that means REALM versus REALM. :roll:

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Postby Corwinn » Nov 14, 2009 18:37

When i first read Nessys post i had not even tried out Uth OF, but i allready agreed with everything, after trying it out, same. Why do people only remember OF as a good old heaven, it wasnt!

But my biggest deal is the porting time. It just kills RvR. You make a grp, missing one guy...u finaly get him...he has to wait 7 min to port, if u can fill that fast, if not u end up making that grp forever.
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Postby Blue » Nov 14, 2009 18:41

Welcome to OF. You wanted it you got it.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

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Postby Razzer » Nov 14, 2009 18:52

Crying for OF!
OF is coming...
Complaining about OF!
I hate such people...
Uthgard till 2003!

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Postby Runis » Nov 14, 2009 18:54

anyways congratz staff for proper OF implement, besides some places you can stuck in (milegate windows) i didnt found any major issues till now :)

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