Isn´t my problem how many time they will spend in implement old ra. But if at the same time they will implement pre 1.80 things, they will spend more time. And there are sources about old ra.

On a off topic side note:
We could go patch 1.8x where warden, thane, friar, reaver and some other classes were actually fully playable...

Toblerone wrote:Ehhh midgard has the most powerful casters.

RM = highest delve spec nuke+ 10% debuff in same spec line,

SM = highest delve pbaoe,

BD = best rupter by far.

Only realm which doesn't require their caster to drop their dps in order to CC/disease.



Albion only has more range with mez, that's about it. Wizards are extinct and theurgists are so-so. And no don't say theurgists are the best for rupting, they only are if you ignore them and let them freecast, in which case, any mage can be one hell of a rupter.

hib casters > alb casters > mid casters

the baseline stun that hib casters get is the trump card.

mid is the melee realm, this is the way the game was intended to be designed. How many SM's do you really see in rvr anyway? I know I haven't seen many... I think you guys need to stop looking at delve values, and look at the reality of what classes are actually played in rvr. There's usually a good reason why they are popular.

Phaeton wrote:
hib casters > alb casters > mid casters

you messed something...

its:

mid casters > alb casters > hib casters

and this base stun is useless as i already said since its reduced by det and resists


Mids play without casters BECAUSE THEY CAN. And they can BECAUSE OF CELE. Will anyone here understand it finally? o.o

The first RR13 on the german server Lyonesse was ... omg, a Mid CASTER!, Runemaster!





There are not many casters in RVR because of it simply sucks to play them on Uthgard (power pool, spell resists, enducost for spells, rupt timer). Albion is almost FORCED to take them with you, mainly Theurg/Sorc, since they are somewhat useful and well, Sorc is a must have anyways.

And highest casters here are mid ones definitely because they are the worst ones in daoc

silenced wrote:The first RR13 on the german server Lyonesse was ... omg, a Mid CASTER!, Runemaster!





There are not many casters in RVR because of it simply sucks to play them on Uthgard (power pool, spell resists, enducost for spells, rupt timer). Albion is almost FORCED to take them with you, mainly Theurg/Sorc, since they are somewhat useful and well, Sorc is a must have anyways.

don't throw RR's at me... we all know that RR is as much a function of time played as it is a person's skill and of their group's.

I'd take a hib caster over any other with the current ruleset if given the choice

silenced wrote:The first RR13 on the german server Lyonesse was ... omg, a Mid CASTER!, Runemaster!

And? Im sure that was guy without rl who spent all his time on play daoc.
When i played in live server in vortigern (ita server) 7 years ago, the higest rr char was one shaman. And was 1 guy who spent all his time in daoc.

Phaeton wrote:hib casters > alb casters > mid casters

the baseline stun that hib casters get is the trump card.

mid is the melee realm, this is the way the game was intended to be designed. How many SM's do you really see in rvr anyway? I know I haven't seen many... I think you guys need to stop looking at delve values, and look at the reality of what classes are actually played in rvr. There's usually a good reason why they are popular.

No no and no. This is just repeated ignorance. The basline stun is hardly an advantage when you're mainly nuking tanks and that stun lasts less than a second on one.

Mid is the melee AND caster realm, this is the way it is. SMs don't exist in rvr because playing tanks is much easier. I'm not only looking at delve values, I'm looking at how it is. A mid caster AT has much greater damage potential than any on uthgard, the reason it's not played is because playing casters isn't as easy as playing tanks.

Hibs and albs have casters in groups only because they're a MUST HAVE for their utility, not damage.

Phaeton wrote:I'd take a hib caster over any other with the current ruleset if given the choice

Have you played on hibernia here ? It's not pretty

vangonaj wrote:

silenced wrote:The first RR13 on the german server Lyonesse was ... omg, a Mid CASTER!, Runemaster!

And? Im sure that was guy without rl who spent all his time on play daoc.
When i played in live server in vortigern (ita server) 7 years ago, the higest rr char was one shaman. And was 1 guy who spent all his time in daoc.

Own goal cause its mid class too

we'll just have to agree to disagree then...

I almost regret not rolling hib now after being on this server for a couple months. At the time we started, hib had all 6 relics and it looked like mid needed the most help. I just don't have it in me to reroll hib and level up another char and get it all templated & sc'd again

Toblerone who say about stun only det tanks? They can cast healers, shamans, casters or tanks without det. And this is make them powerfull.

Stop whining its getting very irritating. The game didn't get patched till after 1.80 for all realms to get celerity. We can all list Pro's and Con's of classes and realms... some things are fair, some aren't.

You have a choice, play here or don't play here... this is the ruleset and the staff have made it very clear.

Shav wrote:

vangonaj wrote:

silenced wrote:The first RR13 on the german server Lyonesse was ... omg, a Mid CASTER!, Runemaster!

And? Im sure that was guy without rl who spent all his time on play daoc.
When i played in live server in vortigern (ita server) 7 years ago, the higest rr char was one shaman. And was 1 guy who spent all his time in daoc.

Own goal cause its mid class too

Before inactive Holz was the higest rr in this server. Warden is hib clas.

vangonaj wrote:Toblerone who say about stun only det tanks? They can cast healers, shamans, casters or tanks without det. And this is make them powerfull.

no no, we're supposed to focus on the det tanks with over 2000 hp!