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We need another BG

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Rector Alerion Knight Posts: 2744 Joined: Mar 02, 2006 01:00 Website	Reply with quote by Rector » Jul 22, 2009 11:50 Atm you cannot be successful in the first bg before lvl 30 cause most of the Braemar players are 31+. A first bg from 20-27 would make the access to the game more fun for beginners. That's the true argument that speaks for a fourth BG. Nothing else. Now Staff just has to decide. Catgard UI Mod (aka Blutrausch-UI)\|Twitch-Stream\|R.I.P. Blutrausch@Uth1\|Uth2-Tools: Bestiary\|Signature

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jul 22, 2009 11:59 Rector wrote:Atm you cannot be successful in the first bg before lvl 30 cause most of the Braemar players are 31+. A first bg from 20-27 would make the access to the game more fun for beginners. That's the true argument that speaks for a fourth BG. Nothing else. Now Staff just has to decide. /sign

Brainsmasher Warder Posts: 22 Joined: Jun 21, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Brainsmasher » Jul 23, 2009 17:26 nixian wrote: Rector wrote:Atm you cannot be successful in the first bg before lvl 30 cause most of the Braemar players are 31+. A first bg from 20-27 would make the access to the game more fun for beginners. That's the true argument that speaks for a fourth BG. Nothing else. Now Staff just has to decide. /sign I sadly think they already have made a decision, and of course the decision is : " No more Bg's". I Also think that a bg lvl 20-35 has no sense at all. And for those that said, "you can reach lvl 35 in 2-4 days" well not everyone have the time to play 6 hours in a row every single day. Plus there is a couple of guys that have never played before. So........ I think that would be great to have another BG.

Krinton3 Myrmidon Posts: 196 Joined: Nov 13, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Krinton3 » Jul 25, 2009 02:31 I find it frustrating that the Staff has refused to do this, and refused to type more than three sentences to discuss it.

hopscotsch Gryphon Knight Posts: 260 Joined: Apr 12, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by hopscotsch » Jul 25, 2009 10:19 Funkling wrote: Zarkor wrote:I've heard too many new players say: "Oh it's a good server I like the classic bit, but the grind.. pff it's just too much, I even rather play live then." - And yes, even at levels below 30. This is very true unfortunately. You have a keen sense to state the obvious Nobody in their right mind enjoys killing over 9000 plated fiends and lilispawns but they do it for the awesome pvp that follows. I'm sure that better exp rates and possibly a 20-28 bg would bring more live and other new players to uthgard.

Krinton3 Myrmidon Posts: 196 Joined: Nov 13, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Krinton3 » Jul 29, 2009 06:24 Any staff members going to put any effort into addressing this any time soon? I hate to act ungrateful, but honestly...

MrGimpz Warder Posts: 12 Joined: Apr 30, 2009 00:00 Location: Sydney, Australia	Reply with quote by MrGimpz » Jul 29, 2009 07:19 nixian wrote: Rector wrote:Atm you cannot be successful in the first bg before lvl 30 cause most of the Braemar players are 31+. A first bg from 20-27 would make the access to the game more fun for beginners. That's the true argument that speaks for a fourth BG. Nothing else. Now Staff just has to decide. /sign Vorrid - Minstrel Guild: Atrocity atrocityguild.11.forumer.com

Krinton3 Myrmidon Posts: 196 Joined: Nov 13, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Krinton3 » Jul 29, 2009 08:34 Broagunk wrote:First post on this forum, been lurking but this thread really made me want to say something. First, have the admins discussed why they won't have low low level BGs? Like 5-15 or something? Well because, the other day, due to the forum I inhabit, I actually got about 60 players (only a few vets) to download and join. They were pretty excited when they heard they could experience DAoC RvR, or just RvR people in general. But sadly, one after the other, they started dropping. I kept trying to usher them, but to new players, the PvE grind to about 27~ is insane apparently. So as of now, there's probably about 15 of us that stuck around (me and two friends were planning on staying anyway), and while 15 is nice, its kind of sad, I think, we lost like 45 new players (not mid hehe) because they couldn't experience RvR until they grinded PvE until high 20. I don't know, many said they would come back if there were low level RvR, but a lot were just tearing their hair out every level hoping they could RvR soon, and then getting to 20 and getting one shot. For the record, most liked the battle mechanics, world, classes, ect, but yeah.. ): I feel this anecdote needs to be reiterated. Atm you cannot be successful in the first bg before lvl 30 cause most of the Braemar players are 31+. A first bg from 20-27 would make the access to the game more fun for beginners. That's the true argument that speaks for a fourth BG. Nothing else. Now Staff just has to decide. /sign

Broagunk Warder Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 20, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Broagunk » Jul 30, 2009 06:54 I'm with this. This forum I come from, I got a LOT of people to join, most of them (like 40 people) had never played DAoC, and I lured them in with mentions of of how great DAoC's RvR is. Well, after lots of complaining about the PvE grind from 1-20 (it's hard for newbies I guess, especially if they try soloing...), some finally get to 20 (if they haven't quit already) and get rolled in RvR. I tell them they need to grind to like 28 to have at least a hope. This is where more quit. The PvE is fast and easy for us, but it really really hurts new players who want to RvR. I know this is really a server for vets to have a good time with DAoC classic and RvR, but new players don't hurt, and I see this as the biggest turn-off for newbies. ):

Matrose Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 27, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Matrose » Jul 30, 2009 10:39 I currently read this post and the replies and come to my conclusion that is not a new BG what is missing. Instead it is the complaining about the high RR folks roaming around Agramon and squeezing the last amount of RVR-Motivation out of the new Low RR players who just left Thidranki... Maybe (just an idea) more RP would help: Much more RP for the Victory over a High RR Character or group... Then it could be possible that it would be more like "Oh, the xxx-Group is on its way - lets hunt 'em down" , not "Oh, well, xxx-group - I go BG" It's more like a Bounty-Hunter scenario but maybe a small solution for a big growing problem.

Zarkor Unicorn Knight Posts: 3710 Joined: Aug 15, 2006 00:00 Location: Antwerp, Flanders, Belgium	Reply with quote by Zarkor » Jul 30, 2009 13:11 Matrose wrote:I currently read this post and the replies and come to my conclusion that is not a new BG what is missing. Instead it is the complaining about the high RR folks roaming around Agramon and squeezing the last amount of RVR-Motivation out of the new Low RR players who just left Thidranki... Maybe (just an idea) more RP would help: Much more RP for the Victory over a High RR Character or group... Then it could be possible that it would be more like "Oh, the xxx-Group is on its way - lets hunt 'em down" , not "Oh, well, xxx-group - I go BG" It's more like a Bounty-Hunter scenario but maybe a small solution for a big growing problem. Myes. But, it's not what this topic is about. This topic is about giving a helping hand to lower level players so that they stick it out to give lvl 50 RvR at least a try. However I kind of like your idea. Maybe start a new thread and open a discussion about that?

Broagunk Warder Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 20, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Broagunk » Aug 21, 2009 08:43 I read Nayru and the devs were planning a 1-19 BG, in the Killaloe map, near the end of last year. Whatever happened to that? Would really help to show new lowbies the fun of RvR. As it stands I've lost a lot of new recruits who thought it was like some korean grindfest trying to get from 1-28 to be able to be decent in rvr. Can only carrot people so far...

carnalito Gryphon Knight Posts: 311 Joined: Apr 06, 2009 00:00 Website	Reply with quote by carnalito » Aug 21, 2009 08:51 Rector wrote:Atm you cannot be successful in the first bg before lvl 30 cause most of the Braemar players are 31+. A first bg from 20-27 would make the access to the game more fun for beginners. That's the true argument that speaks for a fourth BG. Nothing else. Now Staff just has to decide. /sign 20-35 bg really makes no sence It takes like a fg of lvl 20's to take down a strong lvl 35 char..

Sethor Alerion Knight Posts: 1899 Joined: Nov 03, 2005 01:00	Reply with quote by Sethor » Aug 21, 2009 11:50 When it comes to battlegrounds I still do believe that these battlegrounds are one of the main issues of lvl50 RvR not being as populated as it could be and I still believe that battlegrounds do harm the server more than they aid players in terms of "making the first steps in RvR". Even though the lvl50 RvR becomes more populated very often you can see that the battlegrounds all together have more or the same number of participating players as in lvl50 RvR plus many players already stated that they prefer to run another twink to be able to rejoin a battleground due to a more fast and pacing RvR experience. In my opinion the staff should concentrate on working on OF (full implementation) in combination with a complete revamp of DAoCs PvE. A lot of players mentioned that DAoCs PvE part was boring as hell last but not least due to the fact of a needed monster-grind. The implementation of live-server quests is the first step into the right direction, but as these quests are well known and players being able to read the conclusion of these quests on certain websites there is not much new to discover. Tajendi has shown that quests in DAoC can be created in a more fun-giving way. Especially new MMO titles have shown that players demand quests. A well mix of fast standart "kill and deliver" quests in combination to more exciting longer storyline quests which in the end give players a more or less huge exp boost. There are enough possibilities to create such Uthgard own quests as Mythic did not use up all possibly myths based upon the three realms. Another possibility would be to use the several classic zone towns to throw in "lvl-based" questlines. The most important thing would be to implement as many quests as needed to offer a player enough "new" quests even if he is rolling another character ... this would be a lot of work, but to be honest work that can be done within half a year in a well-organized structure. If we had such quests, the staff could simply kick out the battlegrounds without fearing that players could become bored. Sidenote: battlegrounds were implemented around middle to end of SI times. Almost no player used to play within these battlegrounds as everyone just wanted to become lvl50 to be able to participate in lvl50 RvR. That's the goal the staff should aim on. With regards, Sethor Characters: Midgard: Nothing atm Albion: Nothing atm Hibernia: suxx ^^

Nymeros Phoenix Knight Posts: 1426 Joined: Apr 12, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Nymeros » Aug 21, 2009 12:39 While I agree with everything else you said, I think simply removing Battlegrounds is a bad idea. Removing possibilities is never good, you can't make someone like mainstream RvR more by removing alternatives.