Speaking about buffing. Wasnt there a patch that increased the duration of temp buffs? Currently quite often the 2 Rs in RvR are running and rebuffing. Maybe increasing the duration (even if its post 1.80) would make it less boring to wait for inc.

well sorry but a grp that needs 20 mins. to buff should work on its organisation and is, in my eyes, not really competitive for agramon.....buffing is done in some mins.
what takes time and makes enemies bored is the waiting for ra timers, cuz lots of grps wont run without every ra up, thats crap

and the so called high rr grps dont really run in agramon these days cuz lot of the players have left to other servers, so every grp with some setup and organisation is able to have fun (and kills) in agramon atm....

why not delete agra? bet you would get more votes for that..

just delete bg's and you will loose 90% of the uth popultion, delete agra and you will loose 30 players, most of em x-realming to the realm that can give em most rp's...

omg, i bet i stepped on some long toes now.. flame on...

delete agra...and then? there must be a possibility for 50 to make rvr^^

yeah lets delete agramon and all go and play WoW for some really challenging pvm lol

delete agra and you will loose 30 players, most of em x-realming to the realm

yes thats true...

I hate zoning... and Agramon is about zoning -.- ( after 30min of roaming my pc even get warning from windows xD - not enough memory ...)
-> Could we have just 1 zone for RvR?

XP bonus in RvR areas a must have in my opinion. Leads to more RvR .. and u get the active guys knowing ...

Everything else is a pure community problem. Dont run with perfect groups in the first place but gradually increase with increasing challenge.
Take new players and non guildis... and dont direclty kick em after 1 wipe.
But tell em whats wrong in a decent manner. Just remember all of you have started small^^.

Some people suggested u have 6-7 people u know well.. put 1-2 inside that are new or so called noobs and learn to play with each other. 1-2 dont harm to much and u can definelty point on errors. And dont forget to Retry


Greetz
Nes

ps.
Atleast in albion i know a couple of players who have reached a nice RR now , but have forgotten how they played on their RvR beginning. And i very dislike them calling people noobs/ gimps all the time^^

Ok so what went wrong?
As you can see even EdN is looking for other servers with more rvr... and so agramon rvr dies even more.

So for me I think the main question is, what kind of players should be attracted? Or more what kind of players does the staff attract with his server politics? What is the aim now?

For us its boring, so we leave for a while and its the same with many many other RvR active guilds (as you can see from the herald)

Sonnenschein, the server aims at emulating old classic style DAoC. Its difficult in the current freeshard scene to keep that setting up as you can imagine. On other servers you get everything quite fast or even instant. Such things attract players. But this discussion is at least as old as this server.

The solution against a dry out of the Main RvR zone is not an easy one. Maybe if new players reach the Main RvR and old elitist players stay out it will get more even and balanced there. The pressure in the RvR zone that is not felt in that way in the BG maybe one reason. On fastrate servers I guess there are more quick&dirty players that serve as an easy victim for not so good skilled players. So they have fun too. Here you THINK you need a good setup to even start in the RvR zone. Thats the problem.

The thing we as staff can do is to make the Main RvR zone attracting and get as much players into the zone as possible. As you have propably seen we started with it by implementing player suggestions. There is more discussions behind the scenes to get our Main RvR interesting and tactical.

I assure you that some things will change in the very very near future... more on that later.

monty wrote:why not delete agra? bet you would get more votes for that..

just delete bg's and you will loose 90% of the uth popultion, delete agra and you will loose 30 players, most of em x-realming to the realm that can give em most rp's...

omg, i bet i stepped on some long toes now.. flame on...

Well sometimes I, personally, like the rare but quality rvr in agramon rather then killing full groups and more with a duo in braemar or wilton.

You're dead on about the crossrealmers though, the other day we had albs "crash" our megalodon raid. Weeding those idiots out would be awesome.

Blue wrote:The thing we as staff can do is to make the Main RvR zone attracting and get as much players into the zone as possible.

agra bonus for xp!!

less crossrealmers>> if im not wrong a timer can be set up for changing realm on an specific IP

hope u like the ideas... im not the first one to try those

I dont know why u have a problem with X-Realmer at all?

I am a X-Realmer^^ So tell me whats sooo wrong?.

Most of the time Agra is soo boring. You lack in enemies, so i join the realm that needs help the most. So why does it hurt RvR at all ?


Greetz
Nes

p.s.

Just because u got ganged while xping doesnt mean its a x-realmer problem.
Just because a legion / megalodon got some unwanted adders doesnt mean its an x-realmer issue.

This mobs are placed on purpose into RvR zones. So dont exspect to level/raid there without doing any RvR at all Especially after "Zerging in Agramon"

Cross Realmers.

3 Main points

The Problem i see is the ones that Cheat in doing it.

1) as in go /who in one realm just to find enimies. then if they get Bored go log on to a different realm again just to kill others.
-I see this in DF a few times-

2) heck i killed a group of lv 40+ once i saw they had 2 drinkers on them just for one alb named Slap to jump on a alt calling me a grey killer^^
loging on a alt just to flame is sad.

3) And finaly Its hard to trust Cross realmers, you never know if there just leading to your death to feed RPS to there friends to another realm.


I think a 30 Min timmer would Help alot, and a small jailing to people that try and play different realms in the same house hold.

its sad that i now need to go /anon each time i got to a RvR zone becuase of spys.

3) And finaly Its hard to trust Cross realmers, you never know if there just leading to your death to feed RPS to there friends to another realm.

i understand better why you play so bad nestrel