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I now adays just ignore most ranger bashes, as its normaly from someone that had just lost to one, because they had lacked the skill to kill them. The game is not just about standing there and hiting your taunt because your so strong on other enemys lol. Almost every claim agenst rangers has no proof to support, just crys meant to insult those who play a ranger. Its best to ignore them and pretend they are 5. Sooner or later they will stop and go on to the next topic to bash.
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The reason this ranger QQ comes up in every stealther conversation is ...........................
wait for it! that rangers are OPED... i wish people would stop defending them, in this setting they are, there is no getting around it. (this is not insulting ranger players or bashing, its just their class just seems a little broken atm) BUT life for assasins will get better against rangers in OF RAs. It will probly be a different story, sadly it means that hunters/scouts will be hurt too, which is bad considering they are not on par with a ranger. i mean unless truesight is up (it wont be) the assasin is gonna get the jump on an archer class.. the way it should be really. Not like now where a ranger can negate all the assasins crit strike specc line with ranged dmg out of stealth and then still melee much stronger also. |
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Ronia, i'am not playing my inf ... will say more  ... i am totally not playing Uthgard atm for some rl questions (my gf want more time ^_^) and because i want w8 for a better game set (see old ra's and, i hope, some fix on melee combat system).
... but i have fun read this forum and i want post when i read things like this: archers are the main enemies for assassins 
is clear i am talking with someone that never played live, expecially old daoc (that is what Uthgard want to be). about your damage Ronia slash inf: are u hybrid spec or am i wrong? so for u is normal u can use bow, u are not melee spec, and still kill melee a infi (even if with luck and, of course, with str relics)? and i am sure u haven't used IP or rr5 ... am i wrong? if u had use IP, PURGE and then, maybe, rr5 to escape + comeback and kill with bow i can say this should be possible, but, i am pretty sure, u are talking about a fight where u haven't used nothing: NO IP NO PURGE NO RR5 am i wrong? cya |
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Asd i was talking about how a ranger makes 3 hits to kill an assassin with MOS5, i accept that an archer can kill an unstealth player wih bow, but i don't accept an archer kill assassins with bow by range and they can't use cs line (PA).
A bow doesn't need to be positioned in front or back etc, just shot by everywhere...I need to see the target to make side critical, an i can't if i don't see u. This is the reason, Ronia can kill me, but he can uses all of his skills, i can only run to him before die and it's not about skill (and vanish is useless). However i don't care to be judge by freeshard players, i was just explaining my point of view...This is the only server where u can say "If u nerf ranger will be totally ****** and i don't log anymore", it seems like an ultimatum .
And it's nice to see how all the rangers are opening the same threads about see hidden, they are op and they are QQ at the same time  .
PS: I read a lot of thread about nerf viper, but if viper is the only way to kill a ranger why all the rangers want to nerf it?
Please try to be serious
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Ronia... you're rr11.. you can admit you are op now
you will still able to win 1v1 with purge/ip/rr5/sos even after a nerf hehe ... i guess  |
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The question is.. if rangers are not OP cause they are all skilled players and high rank( irony) why a high rank scout/hunter be a kill machine like them? They can outdamage assasins on melee and still do a really high dmg on range....and not need be rank 10 |
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Well lets break down, What makes the ranger OP ?
Is it Physical Defense ? - Well scouts and hunters have that also and they are not OP according to others. Is it Ignore Pain ? - Well scouts, hunters, tanks and many others have this also, but are not called OP too. Is it there bow ? - Other archers are not considered OP. Is it Celtic Dual damage ? - Well Nightshades, Infis, Blademasters(higher table), Merc(higher table) all have simular dual wielding chances , but are not considered OP. Is it the rangers damage table in melee ? - Well there has been a topic brought up in the past and I and others have provided proof on that fact, compared to live and even the staff seen it and agreed it wasnt on a higher table then it should of been. Only there bow is on a higher table. So the Nightshade, Scoutn, Hunter, Infi and so on are all on this table and are not considered OP. Is it because they have Self Buffs ? - Well Hunters, Champions, and many other self buffing classes are not considered OP. Is it because Rangers can use Blade Weapons ? - Well so can Nightshades, Infis (sword) and so on and all are not considered OP. Basicly other classes have what the ranger has, and none are considered OP, only the focus is on the Ranger. Basicly because its the assasins whining. Now some may say, its because rangers have all of the above. Well there is no bug present, as mythic had implemented all of that for quiet sometime with little changes. And yes not everyone has all of that, but they also have OP skills, like shield slam. 9 sec stun, and with old Ras it gives anyone with a shield a benifit as purge is less likely to be up and 9 seconds is a long time when your facing a high dps class and even scouts will be allowed to pull off 2 CS. Then there is some hybrids with DD scouts and those damages are quiet high for uthgards setup. Every class has many things that are strong. But alot of people have an assasin they may play, then an archer, so its understandable to focus on the ranger and request them to be customly nerfed to make your fights easyer. Why learn to play better, when you can ask the staff to make things easyer for you. |
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well, eclipse...your wall of text is nice as always...you are right...other classes have similar/same skill(s) as ranger has...
but you forgot to summon your wall at the end...the ranger has ALL of what you listed...and thats what make him better than most other... its not a single thing...but the result of all of them. like it or not..but thats a fact.. |
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Hunter has all that listed above except cd. So Hunter is semi-op?  |
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Then something is wron with rangers when other archer class have similar( not at all) skills and cant outdamage assasins on melee AND do good bow damage at same time ^^ |
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hmm
hunter = shield + d/q ranger = shield + str + dmgadd + d/q dmg add + str buff is uber? ^^ |
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define uber. 50 more str on the ranger's table using pierce should be almost 5% more damage. In ronia's screenshot his damage add is averaging around 10% of his mainhand damage and a little more than that for his offhand. That's about 15%+ more damage from those 2 buffs. Is 15% more damage from self buffs uber? Well I dunno, that's opinion, but I know I wouldn't turn it down. |
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/cough
Rangers doing more damage VS stealthers /cough one thing i need to point out... ever looked at the rangers and Assassins armour? lol |
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Eclipsed if rangers aren't op why everybody (even players from albion) has rerolled a ranger?
Wahy rangers have most rp * week tha assassins? Probably because u aren't playing an op classe, are the other players (assassins) noob and they don't know how to play... Holavez |
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Hummm how many stealthers out there reapply envom after there target purges? Not just Dots, But what about Str/con? or disease? or heres a good one, what about Snare? I See only about 5% of stealthers out there that Reapply after a purge lol, aye a few will reapply a Dot, but they forget all the other Toys that make there class what it is... |
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