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Postby Breeze » May 17, 2010 21:51

omg, enough with the ranger QQ..
Viper 3 anyone?
This is rediculous :) I've played many chars on this server.. and sure.. ranger are strong.. they were at times on live too..
But there is far stronger classes here.. with much more rediculous abilities..

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Postby Rector » May 17, 2010 21:52

Hunter? Wizard? Animist? ;)

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Postby massivmampfer » May 17, 2010 21:54

Again. If you stand no chance against ranger with your sb/infi try other class or give up^^

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Postby Breeze » May 17, 2010 21:57

Neju wrote:
Rector wrote:
larsan wrote:1. Rangers hit way to hard in melee
2. Rangers take to little damage in melee.if spec PD (almost all do)


Is this intended by Mythic or are there bugs on Uthgard that make the Ranger stronger than he should be?


uthgard :grin:

rangers are on the wrong weapskill table here afaik (think blue said this some months back)

PD = NF RA which just dont work on this server *lol classic* setting, and PD was removed from archers on live also :P


It was a mistake.. rangers are on the correct dmg table.. dont spread rumors :)
He even wrote it in the original thread afaik..
But it's typical really.. as soon as anyone hear a ranger rumour everyone jumps the wagon lol..
"OMG, I heard a ranger killed a FG once, NERF NERF NERF"..
Please guys..

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Postby Rector » May 17, 2010 22:05

The average Ranger is more successful in getting rp's than most other classes. Only the average bonedancer and average animist can top that, but average means 2 respectivly 3 players for them, so their values are not significant.

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Postby Breeze » May 17, 2010 22:17

Rector wrote:The average Ranger is more successful in getting rp's than most other classes. Only the average bonedancer and average animist can top that, but average means 2 respectivly 3 players for them, so their values are not significant.

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You left out an important fact that hibs have all relics now...
It changes a lot.. ofc the numbers will grow to unrealistic normal numbers with 6 relics..
I never said ranger isn't a good class.. but i cant believe all the assasin QQ..
Any assassin who just hits a ranger once in an entire fight can potentially deal almost 1000dmg via dot ticks.. i mean come on..
If an assasin hits a ranger without purge and runs he'll be on like 30% health when the dot runs out..
And in a fight purge doesnt even count as any assasin with respect for himself has atleast 6 more wpns in his inventory to reapply..
Even the most gimpy no skill assasins can nearly kill a ranger who has PD4 if he just reapply a few poisons..
People should just learn how to play their classes..

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Postby kryptonite » May 17, 2010 22:23

Stressed wrote:Ok guys as we have gone offtopic :

Sure Im not the best but i win some...except versus rangers...hence can the rangers posting they r normal and they die sometimes stop the bs and quote how many fights versus sbs they win and die against as i have.

My guess i s one death per 5-10 wins on sb's.

This isnt right, combine that with the massive new amount of rangers playing - no longer possible to play an sb for fun...no fun....no play


do you remember hanma or runis?
they took every ranger easiely ;)
was there a change on rangers since that?
i dont think so.
just go viper 3, switch each or every second swing and here you go.

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Postby kryptonite » May 17, 2010 22:25

Celad wrote:OMG! Really a full bow specced 7Lx archer can kill you in 3 lucky* hits?! This is incredible!!! WHAT AN UNBALANCED CLASS!!!!!
This is like Tobly QQing that a pure dps toon like a zerk with all buff, aotg3, vendo mode, ecc ecc, can kill 1500 hp to a mage in two shots... pfff...


* 1) 800+ dmg for a critshot it's not easy to see, and a critshot is not easy to land because of the high dehid chance.
2) the 2 other shots are really lucky -> 350+ dmg with a shot mean no rf mode, right arrow choice and a BIG luck for the variance that bow dmg has here, also the archer has not to be rupted for 6-7 secs... mh... really improbable.


sehya... if you see me first and can open with crit i got no chance.

but i dont cry about hunters because of that.

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Postby Seyha » May 17, 2010 22:56

Why do people keep bringing up Viper in a thread about Rangers imbalance?

kryptonite wrote:sehya... if you see me first and can open with crit i got no chance.


Hey, you just pointed out two critical factors that I must over come to be able to kill you.

1. I need to see you first

and

2. I need to be able to hit you with a Crit Shot

In any other situation I am at a disadvantage. I am at a disadvantage in melee. I am at a disadvantage against any class that can block arrows or interrupt (*cough* Nightshades) or cast Nearsight. This is called balance. You play a class with strengths and weaknesses.
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Postby kryptonite » May 17, 2010 23:11

and if you dont get that you just use your speed burst or your rr5 to get away.
so whats my chance vs you?
get you with camu down, with speed burst down and with rr5 down?

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Postby Seyha » May 17, 2010 23:16

kryptonite wrote:and if you dont get that you just use your speed burst or your rr5 to get away.
so whats my chance vs you?
get you with camu down, with speed burst down and with rr5 down?


You can break my speed with any sort of DD. You are a Nightshade. I need camouflage to have any chance at all so that means 10 minutes of down time after every fight if I'm solo. Great fun. The RPs just roll in with that sort of "advantage." Meanwhile you have Rangers standing in the middle of AMG with camou OFF like they own the place (they do).

My RR5 is nice, but there are several counters to it. Ranged damage is one of them. Stealthing at the right moment is another. I can't believe I'm giving you free tips on how to beat me, but these always seemed obvious to me.

I'm flattered to be mentioned by name as being OP though. Thank you.
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Postby larsan » May 17, 2010 23:38

@stressed

I though there was some sarcasm in your story, but whats really wrong with that. It was simply pointing out what everyone knows. What you speak of with 3 SBs kiting with poisons is not at all far from the truth.
Rangers are a Joke , everyone knows it.
Fix It please.

Sadly I play dirty with all rangers and at all levels now. They rolled a OP and know it. if i get a chance to kill them regardless I'm doing it.

I'll add, bait, xp kill.

just the way it is now.
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Postby Astealoth » May 17, 2010 23:47

seyha is op because he got a rapid fire button on his quick bar. some rangers besides ronia should learn this button :P

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Postby vangonaj » May 17, 2010 23:51

[quote="kryptonite"
do you remember hanma or runis?
they took every ranger easiely ;)
was there a change on rangers since that?
i dont think so.
just go viper 3, switch each or every second swing and here you go.[/quote]

For your information Runis isn´t viper user. Hanma used viper 3.

Viper3 sux.
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Postby Seyha » May 17, 2010 23:53

Considering a Ranger has almost the exact same ability set as a Hunter (only better in almost every possible way)... If I can kill Viper 3 assassins and a Ranger can't then that Ranger is just lazy.
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