Solo/smallman RvR and OF
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that just makes me think you want a duel zone where no one can kill you after the duel is done - which will never happen on uth and why no one goes to mmg? well.. usually I camp mpk when I go out but as said before, no time atm to play much or at all |
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Wrong, i do not expect addless fights anymore on Uthgard. And that is ok (less fun for me, but ok).
But i was very dissapointed, that an apparently soloing player first watched my 1vs1 and didnt add (that was great)... but after that leeched me, when i was at 20% HPs. I Would have lost a 1vs1 against this player anyway, even if it was fair. I would be glad to have an 1vs1.. even if i loose. |
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most solo players respect that they are killed after a fight since they have had their 1v1 and their fun.. you can't expect players to let you live after a fight - often they are flamed and yelled at from their realm mates who want some rps even after they died
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I think the thought of OF has exceeded the reality. The majority wanted OF because thats what they remember, back in the days, with well over 1000 population in each server.
Times have moved on, NF was released = faster action, more suited to a smaller population, thats pretty much it. Its a game and supposed to be fun, and unfortunately, for me, OF isnt great, and i see myself playing insta 50 servers cos im bored waiting for 30 mins for nothing. Dont get me wrong, when i do get a group in emain and there are enemies, its great fun. But, the zones are too big for the population. |
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Just speak for yourself.  I would also recommend you to stop insulting me because that de facto is trolling. In simple words: Practice what you preach. Furthermore - and to become on-topic again - I would like to know what is wrong with my Enchantress. Oh, and I of course never said nor insinuated her to be a RvR active char, that is something you came up with. I only wrote that whenever I went to Alb frontiers with her there were enemies in the Alb frontiers (which sadly smacked me down every time  ). There really is room for improvement in your reading skills, seriously.
Maybe it is just me but I do see two major differences between your examples (world hunger, peace on earth) and the solo / small group RvR situation: 1) Our situation affects only few people, I would guess something between 30 and 50 players at most. This is eight orders of magnitude less than the number of people being affected by world hunger and world peace which is quite a difference. 2) From 1) and from the well-known existence of this forum, IRC, ingame-chat, TS, Ventrilo etc. among the players follows that the people interested in solo / small group RvR can easily communicate with each other. This again is something that cannot be said about all people being affected by world hunger and world peace. As you see, your examples are chosen wrong and therefore cannot be used here. Additionally - as stated above - whenever I go to Alb frontiers I do find enemies and I surely would find more if all people interested in solo / small group RvR would just consequently go there. A timed BP-bonus for solo players in this region would in my mind also not help solving the problem because I expect that as soon as it is gone the people that were attracted by the bonus will stay away again ("windfall gain"). The only guaranteed stable solution still is that the solo / small group RvR community takes things in their own hands. You see, to my mind the people that call for GMs' help in this problem rather than simply taking things in their own hands and using the solution that is there suffer from a lack of own intiative and that is something I really cannot stand. I also think that in the case given this has its roots in the long time of NF where own initiative was not necessary. Times have changed with OF, I am really glad they did I do not wish to go back one single step to NF-behaviour. So instead of filling one thread after another with pages of calls for help just solve the problem yourself. Be proactive, go solo if you want solo and tell everybody that you know likes playing solo to do the same. |
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Stop trying to prevent people from trying to do something about the situation. Asking the GMs for help is the only shot we got at it since we CAN NOT ARRANGE AN 'OFFICIAL' SMALLMAN ZONE AS A COMMUNITY! Since we don't have the numbers to do it without words and we don't have the words since it's against the rules. Staff needs to give us an incentive so there is NO DOUBT where and when solo and smallman is going on. The population is too small to split things up in EITHER Odins OR Hadrians. It's just not working because both zones will remain just as dead. And NO, it's not because you go out and find someone (like what? once a week?) that there is action! It's not all about you finding incs, it's about the solo (and smallman) community finding eachother, which you are obviously NO PART OF. Hence, your claim that everything is fine is completely ridiculous and only aggrevating people that actually do solo for real. This is the last time I'm replying to your bullsh*t, I hope you get the point...  |
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Your ridiculous little opinion has been noted. You may not speak to me again until you learned some manners. |
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Hahah seems this topic has changed to <Der_Eisbaer vrs everyone else>
Eisbaer is a celeb! 
Well OF brought old feeling of DaoC that seemed to miss from long ago. I personaly hate waiting time on porting (or running for 8min to get to the action) which ruins the FUN. Not sure why you cant change porting time to instant as same as it was on live servers in the end of OF. Maybe it could solve solo/small grp problem because it will alove to have more chanses for fight. It would be something similar to agra except hib will suffer penalty for running time x-(. Well i tried running nowdays on Warbuff with duos/trios and it sux abit. Either we get rolled by fg's roaming around amg or we cant find no one else to fight against. Similar problem was on agra but we solved it by not playing in prime time but in time when fg's are just being built as grp's of 3-4-5. See ya out there Nymeros, Amadeth. /Salute <Warbuff> |
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/wave  <strong>FIX TEH PROFILE PAGE SO I CAN CHANGE MY SIG PLZ</strong>
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Der_Eisbaer
As Blue has seen our arguments as valid, I really don't see why you feel the need to justify yourself again here, so I'll just give you a few keywords: Absolute amount vs relative amount (the percentage of the population is what counts) Decision power vs following by inertia (only the rich/developed countries can actually make the food/peace change) TS/Vent/etc vs mass media While I agree that the problem IS initiative, it is not the only problem nor the biggest one. The biggest problem is INCENTIVE. If you want to discuss this further for an applied mathematics point of view, hit me up on PM, as I really don't see the point in spamming this thread further. To everyone else that's having trouble following the discussion: Blue has agreed that the BP bonuses based on groupsize and horse routes to RvR zones are a good idea, yay! However I personally think that it's better to have the bonus only at Odins at the start, instead of moving it around to Emain based on primetime or the number of players, as Emain is and always will be established, and Odins will need al the help it can get. If anyone has anymore *constructive* ideas about improving the solo and smallman RvR situation in OF, feel free to contribute. P.S. /wave Warbuff |
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Nym I think the point about moving it to emain at lowpeak hours is to have a cookie for players to form a number of small grps instead of 1 big one which will result in better offpeak hours action most of the time
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I see that, but IMO that will happen in Emain naturally, because it will always remain "The Zone". I think that it's much more important to first see if this will even work the way we think for Odins, and help rejuvenate solo RvR, and then we can fine tune it.
It just seems to me better psychologically (for lack of a better word) to setup Odins as the 100% of the time solo bonus zone, at least in the beginning. |
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i have no problems to find solo rvr, dunno wath other people do wrong.
complete albion and midgard frontier is free for it and meanwhile also filled with some enemys... too lazy to port there and search? then its not our problem : P only thing you shouldnt do is port to emain at 20 pm european time and awaiting other solos... 
only dont like this upcoming idea of horse routes... that makes it nearly impossible for soloers to lure around for example near druim ligen but i forgot, thats not the gamestyle of most QQ ppl here so its ok... |
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Most people voted for OF because they did only think about some good things. Furthermore I bet that most ppl didnt ever play OF before voting for it. I BET a revote (of or nf) now would NOT vote OF again.
Btw: I voted AGAINST of in the first poll and I dont regret my vote. |
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Tbh I also think that a lot more people would vote against OF now.
But as the staff have shown willingness to try and solve the problem within OF, we should wait and see how that turns out. |
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