Old RA-System

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You really like the old RA System?

Yes, I have read your thread, but I still like it.
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No, I think you are right, I dont like it.
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I dont care.
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Total votes : 103

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Postby Flamingfury » Aug 16, 2008 18:34

Rufus_The_Hermit wrote:No RR5. :arrow:


Considering the unbelievable utility/balance difference between certain RR5 abilities I'd say removing them would be a good thing.

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Postby Duke » Aug 16, 2008 18:41

Flamingfury wrote:
Rufus_The_Hermit wrote:No RR5. :arrow:


Considering the unbelievable utility/balance difference between certain RR5 abilities I'd say removing them would be a good thing.


every RR5 is useful in a diffrent situation.

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Postby Flamingfury » Aug 16, 2008 18:53

Duke wrote:
Flamingfury wrote:
Rufus_The_Hermit wrote:No RR5. :arrow:


Considering the unbelievable utility/balance difference between certain RR5 abilities I'd say removing them would be a good thing.


every RR5 is useful in a diffrent situation.


True but while some situations you face several times daily and some you face once a week.

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Postby malle » Aug 16, 2008 19:01

mahaha stupid signatures ^^

just some nooby ppl who dont want to loose thei imbaness they never should have get are against OF ra`s (=

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Postby Zarkor » Aug 18, 2008 08:04

I vote... :
step 1: wait for origins at least before changes like this will be implented. There's nothing more crappy than implenting this only to find out our memories don't go back that far and get stuck in endless RA discussions when there are at that point some "bugged" ra's in the running.

step 2: wait for the staff! If I was a staff member I'd take a look here and say: they're in dreamland again..
As we all know they've got their hands full with enough other important bugs already, dropping stuff like this on their heads will only end up in more whining, flaming and stopping.
This will only work if the admins are backing this up 200% and I'm not seeing this happen as long as there's no coherence in the players's opinion. We have a pretty decent population now, why lose people with having an unsure future (yes, of course this can turn out the good way too) when u can have a pretty solid present (and future)?

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Off-topic:

Imo 1 thing should be getting more attention than it has now: Population!
I don't know what the server is capable of right now, I've heard of people asking to kill pets / use /cloak off to decrease the lag, but I'd sure like to know how many people the server can take, still giving decent and playable connection.
If this shouldn't be a problem then we need to find a way to attract new players.
I'm not saying we need to roam live servers yelling about that they can play on a kind of classic server for free, I think most of them are aware of freeshards and really know why they are still paying the monthly fee.
BUT: I've got some irl friends that were roaming free mmorpg's, having played tons of games I never even heard of. They all ended up with the same conclusion: the fun stops at a certain lvl in all of these games.
Uthgard and DAoC in general is a masterpiece game (for me fun hasnt stopped in 7 years and counting now): it could attract much more new players than it currnetly has. A big 'No' gets smacked in your face when u notice the monthlee fee from live, but Uthgard manages to counter this with double force: it's as free as breathing air! My friends got hooked up with daoc now, still having to reach lvl 50 and taste the real excitement DAoC has to offer but they already have it as their Nr.1 (perhaps shared or not) mmorpg.
I'm just seeing possibilities . . .
I've got no idea how to make work of things like this but having a population that reaches 500 or more at its peak (like eden, yes) would surely be a good thing(/start?) in my opinion. The 'low' population is also something that got to my friends, classic daoc is big enough! Most of us sure know this...


PS: Sorry for the big off-topic-topic, but I'm too tired to make a real topic about this atm...
Will do this later on.


*Dreaming of different starter towns containing players new to DAoC discovering the realms and going static receiving 1g from an older player... Ahh the classic feeling* 8)

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Postby salbei » Aug 18, 2008 09:23

I don't know what the server is capable of right now, I've heard of people asking to kill pets / use /cloak off to decrease the lag, but I'd sure like to know how many people the server can take, still giving decent and playable connection.


that one made me laugh :lol:

how about everybody is taking off their pants to reduce lag for one day ?

ontopic :

ahm there is no official statement that old ra´s ever gonna see the light of day - it was just a suggestion so far .

i totally agree that there are more important things to do and i guess most people see it that way.

tracking down all delves of the old system won´t be that easy . try to get a delve for some of the active ra´s back in the day for example ^^

so funny how people change their signatures etc. to prevent something that hasn´t even been confirmed yet . what do you think a random public poll will do ? nothing.

you can start your campaign when a official thread comes out in the community poll forum :roll:

even if the staff decides to change the system - its not going to happen over night and propper research WILL be done . that research alone will prolly take several month.

easiest way would be waiting for that live server and get some idea´s from that . thats actually more a threat to your precious ras than the old system is right now.

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Postby Salidor » Aug 18, 2008 11:44

Salbei Compearing Man Size in RvR would suck ^^

But I liked both the Old set up and New.
I just dont like the RR5 RAs Theres a few that are just to powerful.
theres a few Classes that have pointless RR5's and Others that will give them a easy win.

I win Buttons should be removed ^^

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Postby massivmampfer » Aug 18, 2008 12:05

well...even if some rr5 seem to be too strong...in my opinion its the only very cool feature with NF ras. In of some classes could spec unique ras. In nf each class gets a very specific rr5 ability. I voted for yes OF but the rr5 abilities are really cool and it would be really cool to keep them. Those rr5 abilities + the varietyof spec possibilities are more intersting i then OF ra system i think ( i know i voted yes of, but in the end i think OF would just take to much time to implement and isnt that different at all from nf ras)

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Postby Shadowstalker » Aug 19, 2008 13:05

I'll say it short and clear...

If Old RA's get introduced to this server, i'll quit this server!
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Postby nixian » Aug 19, 2008 13:40

Shadowstalker wrote:I'll say it short and clear...

If Old RA's get introduced to this server, i'll quit this server!



woot lets get them in ;)

lol honestly alandir.. saying such things wont change a thing.. oooh noo we loose 1 player but we might gaing 20? seriusly saying you will leave due to a change wont change anything

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Postby Amnor » Aug 19, 2008 13:58

nixian wrote:
Shadowstalker wrote:I'll say it short and clear...

If Old RA's get introduced to this server, i'll quit this server!



woot lets get them in ;)

lol honestly alandir.. saying such things wont change a thing.. oooh noo we loose 1 player but we might gaing 20? seriusly saying you will leave due to a change wont change anything




and now many other ppl will come and say "I'll quit then too LOL"
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Postby Raven » Aug 19, 2008 14:00

IMO It's not essential the RA system should be changed, I don't see the server unpopulated by next week because we use the new RA system.
Quite a large fuss for just a 'suggestion'.

About RR5, It's not the RR5 that makes the class, I'm very fond of my Infiltrator even though the RR5 ability is by far as great as the Champ's or Reaver's.

Also, don't forget New Frontiers and the new RA system were implemented on live to cope with the smaller population due to sluggish RvR and relativily huge maps.

I really don't see the need to change the current RA system as it seems to be working fine to me, and the more you change to a working system, the more likely it will fail eventually.

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Postby panachier » Aug 19, 2008 14:03

if ever the old RAs come to uthgard, i'll stay

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Postby malle » Aug 19, 2008 14:18

NF was implemented because with ToA and OF ra`S some things went totaly wrong on Live... because they implemented some things that were OF ra`s as Toa abilities and Stats

On uthgard we dont have toa and dont have OF ra`s so we are missing some Features.. (=

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Postby Raven » Aug 19, 2008 14:30

But it still helps against sluggish RvR and relatively huge maps, doesn't it ? :p

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