it wasnt intentionally tho, mids were shocked aswell when the relic got ported to df and gm's already reset it.

Loriot wrote:it wasnt intentionally tho, mids were shocked aswell when the relic got ported to df and gm's already reset it.

Sure. Why did it happen with the Alb Str relic as well? ****** exploiters. Get the ****** off the server.

Lucilius- wrote:

Loriot wrote:it wasnt intentionally tho, mids were shocked aswell when the relic got ported to df and gm's already reset it.

Sure. Why did it happen with the Alb Str relic as well? ****** exploiters. Get the ****** off the server.

If this was intentional, the responsible people should get a ban. Such a thing really is not fun, I wanted to sleep 3 hours ago, but stayed for my realm. Others did the same I believe. If all that was just for a few exploiters and bug-abusers they have to go.

I wasn't there for the Alb relics being taken, the times I did defend the Mids didn't seem to be exploiting. It's possible there were exploits on the attempts that were successful but I don't think many Albs showed up either way so they would've got them anyways.

IMO, relics should not be available to be taken for at least another month. It rewards powergamers too much and punishes realms that had a slow start (ahem, 2 weeks of Albion having a 3 second spell delay).

Well this time I dont think there was any exploit going on but we Hibs had 3 high FGs for Lamfhota defense, but both side-doors were bugged and we couldnt get in. That really is no fun at all...

Dagda is gone now too. We Hibs had a solid foothold on the top floor and Mids actually weren't able to get up. We even wiped part of the Mid raid a little later, only to realize that our relic was gone. I have no clue how they got it, because they never actually took the relic room, but some suspected they looted the relic thorugh the second floor roof.

Guess I will know the answer after I wake up in a few hours. Respect to the Mids for organizing these raids and mobilizing so many players, but I still have a bad feeling about it all considering our wholehearted efforts were met with exploits or bugs every single raid today.

understandable, getting the relic resetted twice by gm's isn't fun as well but it just encouraged mids even more to go harder for it

#RepairGate

Round#1
on the early morning of january 26, mids attempted to take hib relics, once Dagda was besieged and all 3 doors broken down, the relic was taken through DF back to midgard. Shortly after, the GM's reset the relic, stating it was a bug that the relic could be carried through the gate, still all fine and dandy.

Round#2:
Mids react quickly after the foreign intervention and return to Dagda to take the relic out of a weakyl defended keep (hibs were mostly gone to get wood for repairs).
Relic is returned on normal, legit route to midgard. SCANDAL: another interference by the 4th realm (GM realm): Relic is returned AGAIN (for what reason unclear!)

Next SCANDAL: Hib relic keep doors are repaired by GM's and relic safely placed into it by the 4th realm higher power!!

Round#3:
Mids take Str Relic with brute force against some hib defence

Round #4
Mids go to Dagda again, besieging emboldened defenders, who mock mids in irc. Mids break through all 3 doors and massive amounts of shrooms and end up right below the relic room on the second floor, fighting their way up to the ramp to the third floor, snatching the relic right under the noses of the camping hibs. Rushing outside, bringing the relic home on the regular route. Hibs complain AGAIN, posting screenshots, claiming foulplay.

to be continued..

Now Mid easy mod with 6 RK... we dont have a RvR balance.

And all time Mid have DF, i view more people reroll Mid now because people need easy mod..

Zubasa2016 wrote:#RepairGate

Round#1
on the early morning of january 26, mids attempted to take hib relics, once Dagda was besieged and all 3 doors broken down, the relic was taken through DF back to midgard. Shortly after, the GM's reset the relic, stating it was a bug that the relic could be carried through the gate, still all fine and dandy.

Round#2:
Mids react quickly after the foreign intervention and return to Dagda to take the relic out of a weakyl defended keep (hibs were mostly gone to get wood for repairs).
Relic is returned on normal, legit route to midgard. SCANDAL: another interference by the 4th realm (GM realm): Relic is returned AGAIN (for what reason unclear!)

Next SCANDAL: Hib relic keep doors are repaired by GM's and relic safely placed into it by the 4th realm higher power!!

Round#3:
Mids take Str Relic with brute force against some hib defence

Round #4
Mids go to Dagda again, besieging emboldened defenders, who mock mids in irc. Mids break through all 3 doors and massive amounts of shrooms and end up right below the relic room on the second floor, fighting their way up to the ramp to the third floor, snatching the relic right under the noses of the camping hibs. Rushing outside, bringing the relic home on the regular route. Hibs complain AGAIN, posting screenshots, claiming foulplay.

to be continued..

Sounds like to me the only "scandal" is that the mids that exploited were still able to go back to retake the relics. Shouldn't have even been allowed to get in another try. Maybe it will get sorted out and due punishment will be dealt.

To be continued....

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Zubasa2016 wrote:#RepairGate

Round#1
on the early morning of january 26, mids attempted to take hib relics, once Dagda was besieged and all 3 doors broken down, the relic was taken through DF back to midgard. Shortly after, the GM's reset the relic, stating it was a bug that the relic could be carried through the gate, still all fine and dandy.

Round#2:
Mids react quickly after the foreign intervention and return to Dagda to take the relic out of a weakyl defended keep (hibs were mostly gone to get wood for repairs).
Relic is returned on normal, legit route to midgard. SCANDAL: another interference by the 4th realm (GM realm): Relic is returned AGAIN (for what reason unclear!)

Next SCANDAL: Hib relic keep doors are repaired by GM's and relic safely placed into it by the 4th realm higher power!!

Round#3:
Mids take Str Relic with brute force against some hib defence

Round #4
Mids go to Dagda again, besieging emboldened defenders, who mock mids in irc. Mids break through all 3 doors and massive amounts of shrooms and end up right below the relic room on the second floor, fighting their way up to the ramp to the third floor, snatching the relic right under the noses of the camping hibs. Rushing outside, bringing the relic home on the regular route. Hibs complain AGAIN, posting screenshots, claiming foulplay.

to be continued..

Dear Zubasa,

here is the view from a Hib seeing all of it first hand and being IN KEEP every single raid today. P.S. I hope you enjoyed my shrooms, I know some of you certainly did.

Round#1
Mids had a small but well organized Raid on Dagda. We had few defenders in keep and quickly orgaized a BG to mount a defense. My group (7 50s) was the first full Hib group on the scene, when Mids were already in courtyard. We came in thorugh the side door and directly went for the inside keep doors to get in and setup defenses in relic room. Inside keep doors were bugged, we frantically clicked but noone could get in. We kinda panicked and tried to get up the stairs to reach the safe room above the gate but lost half our group that way.
Our main force arrived roughly at the same time Mids removed the relic through DF.
Removing the relic through DF is an exploit or bug-abuse, per Uthgard rules this offense results in a ban. Claiming the leader of a freakin relic raid doesnt know that this is not supposed to happen or was by mere accident is hilarious. Someone was abusing a bug at least once and you Mids should have every interest to get that person banned as every other player on Uthgard.

Round#2
Mids were still sticking together in their groups securing the relic at the time a GM interfered, while Hibs were already logging off and were gone. Just imagine the situation. We mounted a defense and put in every effort only to find out we were cheated out of our chance to defend the relic by a bug-abuser. People were really ****** and logged out. I was the only person in our former 8-man group that stayed at the now empty relic keep. Why the hell would anyone stay? It was an empty relic keep with destroyed doors and it was the middle of the night for most people. Of course everyone left after this event.
The only reason the relic had no defenders and intact doors at your second raid was because most of the Hibs were rightfully ****** and it made no sense to defend or instantly repair an empty relic keep. The only reason I stayed there and observe your second snatch-out was because I had 6 points to tailor LGM and Dagda has a vendor. I certainly wanted to go to bed after that.

Round#3
Some Hib defense=3FG not being able to get inside the keep through side doors because of bug, while you were at the inside doors. A few individuals actually managed to get in through the opposite side door, others had no idea what to do and stayed outside, some others tried to get in through front. So yeah, most wiped this way and our organized 3FG counterattack didn't do a thing.
Now have your guess, after all this ******, how many Hibs were actually willing to stay after the third raid?

Round#4
We actually managed to get people to move to Dagda asap after Lamfhota was lost and had a solid defense inside against a strong Mid raid. Remember that was after basically 3 exploit and bug ridden raids, that left Hib and most high lvl players initially helping our defense discouraged, angry and offline.
We did manage to hold our own very nicely on the top floor and I absolutely cant tell how our relic got taken, because you Mids did not take the top floor from us and our entire raid was alive while yours was patially wiped by us. You still somehow ended up with the relic and after all that happened today its hardly surprising that we Hibs have a hard time believing you Mids did indeed take the relic in a proper way, espacially since you did not manage to break our defense.

My personal opinion: GMs should have locked all relics for 24h after the first raid with bug-abuse. There was no way a fair fight would have been possible after that.

Tree wrote:

Zubasa2016 wrote:#RepairGate

Round#1
on the early morning of january 26, mids attempted to take hib relics, once Dagda was besieged and all 3 doors broken down, the relic was taken through DF back to midgard. Shortly after, the GM's reset the relic, stating it was a bug that the relic could be carried through the gate, still all fine and dandy.

Round#2:
Mids react quickly after the foreign intervention and return to Dagda to take the relic out of a weakyl defended keep (hibs were mostly gone to get wood for repairs).
Relic is returned on normal, legit route to midgard. SCANDAL: another interference by the 4th realm (GM realm): Relic is returned AGAIN (for what reason unclear!)

Next SCANDAL: Hib relic keep doors are repaired by GM's and relic safely placed into it by the 4th realm higher power!!

Round#3:
Mids take Str Relic with brute force against some hib defence

Round #4
Mids go to Dagda again, besieging emboldened defenders, who mock mids in irc. Mids break through all 3 doors and massive amounts of shrooms and end up right below the relic room on the second floor, fighting their way up to the ramp to the third floor, snatching the relic right under the noses of the camping hibs. Rushing outside, bringing the relic home on the regular route. Hibs complain AGAIN, posting screenshots, claiming foulplay.

to be continued..

Dear Zubasa,

here is the view from a Hib seeing all of it first hand and being IN KEEP every single raid today. P.S. I hope you enjoyed my shrooms, I know some of you certainly did.

Round#1
Mids had a small but well organized Raid on Dagda. We had few defenders in keep and quickly orgaized a BG to mount a defense. My group (7 50s) was the first full Hib group on the scene, when Mids were already in courtyard. We came in thorugh the side door and directly went for the inside keep doors to get in and setup defenses in relic room. Inside keep doors were bugged, we frantically clicked but noone could get in. We kinda panicked and tried to get up the stairs to reach the safe room above the gate but lost half our group that way.
Our main force arrived roughly at the same time Mids removed the relic through DF.
Removing the relic through DF is an exploit or bug-abuse, per Uthgard rules this offense results in a ban. Claiming the leader of a freakin relic raid doesnt know that this is not supposed to happen or was by mere accident is hilarious. Someone was abusing a bug at least once and you Mids should have every interest to get that person banned as every other player on Uthgard.

Round#2
Mids were still sticking together in their groups securing the relic at the time a GM interfered, while Hibs were already logging off and were gone. Just imagine the situation. We mounted a defense and put in every effort only to find out we were cheated out of our chance to defend the relic by a bug-abuser. People were really ****** and logged out. I was the only person in our former 8-man group that stayed at the now empty relic keep. Why the hell would anyone stay? It was an empty relic keep with destroyed doors and it was the middle of the night for most people. Of course everyone left after this event.
The only reason the relic had no defenders and intact doors at your second raid was because most of the Hibs were rightfully ****** and it made no sense to defend or instantly repair an empty relic keep. The only reason I stayed there and observe your second snatch-out was because I had 6 points to tailor LGM and Dagda has a vendor. I certainly wanted to go to bed after that.

Round#3
Some Hib defense=3FG not being able to get inside the keep through side doors because of bug, while you were at the inside doors. A few individuals actually managed to get in through the opposite side door, others had no idea what to do and stayed outside, some others tried to get in through front. So yeah, most wiped this way and our organized 3FG counterattack didn't do a thing.
Now have your guess, after all this ******, how many Hibs were actually willing to stay after the third raid?

Round#4
We actually managed to get people to move to Dagda asap after Lamfhota was lost and had a solid defense inside against a strong Mid raid. Remember that was after basically 3 exploit and bug ridden raids, that left Hib and most high lvl players initially helping our defense discouraged, angry and offline.
We did manage to hold our own very nicely on the top floor and I absolutely cant tell how our relic got taken, because you Mids did not take the top floor from us and our entire raid was alive while yours was patially wiped by us. You still somehow ended up with the relic and after all that happened today its hardly surprising that we Hibs have a hard time believing you Mids did indeed take the relic in a proper way, espacially since you did not manage to break our defense.

My personal opinion: GMs should have locked all relics for 24h after the first raid with bug-abuse. There was no way a fair fight would have been possible after that.

Working as intended! Right?

AFTER ALL of this today, zero Mids have been banned for knowingly exploiting a bug. And yet, they still get to keep every relic.

The server is steadfastly turning into a joke. Devs, just come out and say it: You condone cheating.

If you didn't condone it, you would remove relics and make it neutral until these "bugs" are fixed.

6 - Abuse of bugs, exploits and obvious game errors is forbidden. If you are not sure whether something is a bug or an error then please ask the Uthgard staff for help and clarification. Bugs have to be reported.

10 - Any violations to rules (...) will result in account suspension or termination.

Lets see if its true.