We know that Mids are rich because they have... Lets not talk about that.
Anyway, its much more confortable to level with 130%, i can understand that .
To be honest Midgard has always been the 'easy way' to build a group. You need much less different classes to form a good levelgroup or Rvr group. This is a great great plus on such a small server. Its hard to find all the classes necessary in albion when just 30 players are online. Another point is the server only group unfriendly xp script. They changed the way xp is distributed to prevent pulling. But in fact it just destroys groups in the lower level. Its a lot better xp wise to level alone than with a supporter a few levels above you. But in the end the tank gets bored and the supporter quits. There are a lot ways to pull a char anyway. In Albion the classes are a lot more specialieces. They depend more on a group in general.
So even without bonuses its easier to levelelsewhere. Plus Midgard doesnt has a supporter problem because the shaman was quite easy to level. I leveled mine in 2.5 days to level 45, so i know what i am talking about.
Its quite easy to farm with them too. The normal Albion farm chars like the Necro or the Cabbalist are lacking their pets.
Beside all that most beginners chose Albion. A lot dont stay long because either they see that Midgard has more bonus to level or they dont like DaoC in general. Most of the people that chose Midgard or Hibernian know the game already and will stay. So if you support a 'so called newbie' in Albion most of them wont play a week later. Its a bit frustrating to see that all the people leave that you have supported and i can understand that some will turn down the 3rd newbie a day that asks for money.
To cut a long story short: Midgard is a good choice. I think you will level quite fast to 50. Have fun in RvR with ... hmm with yourself?

You can also have fun without RvR.. Not that much, but enough to keep playing. Most ppl in Alb stopped going to emain, because giving the enemy even more RPs is no fun (and this IS a game, isn't it?).

RvR in Midgard and Hibernia should be ok, since they still have enemies. Who needs the stinkin' Albs in Emain anyways? To see plate armor, you can also go to df and kill some greys on their side.

zibignu wrote:I have tried to lvl a sorc and a cleric here. Its very lonely at level 5-15 (as far as I got on either solo) Ive only seen a couple ppl in the week I have been here. Anyone I have asked for group would not.

Its not the bonuses (though looking at other realms bonus makes you want to level there) its the people that are keeping the Alb realm barren.

If you see somone trying to level up and help you guys out on the battle field you should extend a hand and help them out.. in any way. No fun = no people. Believe me its no fun at all to level a char by yourself.


m2cents.

Zibignu.

Well there is problem with getting grp indeed .. it needs a lot of patience and hard will I have problme with lvling my sorc but i dont give up easy .... maybe its not fun but much more chalenging then just go to mid who got bonus most of time ...

it's not a bad thing that new players join mid, so the rvr could be funnier if you have not to kill well experimented players with lot of RP.

yesterday in wilton with a group of quite good players we were able to kill them.

but at one time or the other, it would be nice good players come/stay on alb

maybe could we try to do a perfect group rvring always together with nice players.(maybe friar,cleric,caba,sorcerer, theu, reaver,pally,wizard)maybe it would means "if you are not good enough choose another group". but i think it's better that, than no rvr and no keep for alb.

leveling on alb is not so bad, when you have a nice group.at the low levels, maybe it s a bit hard and better to play with one or 2 friends for begining. but at high level, a group with theu,cleric, paladin and some others is very nice. better than on hib and mid group for leveling i think

otherwise i totaly agree with alan...

Alandrian, at first, the post subject was "where are the albs" and not "woot midgard is the one-button-easy-realm".


You played sometime in mid, that's right, but what you seems to really doesn't know is that midgard was in the same situation, simply lack of players (good or just less, wonder who are some ppl to juge other's playing bad), or lack of supporters during a long, long period (and what make me proud, is we never whinned on forum, we just done our best to get better and face the problems).

The real strenght of Mid/Uthgard is simply this long work of certain peoples made to maitain a strong gathered community.

Just an exemple, last event :


or another :

http://uthgard.the-bart.org/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10065/060716_Event_Mid.jpg

I use this thread to thank's Fjalla and Nestral, and all the other midgarders started to organise such things; and those participated for make the mid community as it is today !

If you like the realm where you play, and the few friends you have there, just find some solutions better than try to push down others realm by such useless blah.

Sincerly,

Pirith.

i think alandrian just explained the difference between both realms, and to be honest, i don't get the feeling he's pushing the other realm down....

The fact is: at this moment there is no balance between mid and alb, mids have bonus 99% of the time so they lvl faster and are getting even stronger.

so to get back on topic: a lot of albs leave and go to the stronger realms, they dont care about albion, they want to have fun and win in rvr....

sure that is because we don't have a strong friendly community, we are divided into numerous little guilds, all thinking they are uber...

yesterday, after a hard day's work i logged in to find 22 albs online, 2 in braemar, 5 in wilton, 4 or 5 in emain.....the same thing as the day before...

and the moment we get enough ppl to go and try to take a keep, the moment we knock on the keepgate one of us is calling "INC" and we are attacked by middies....

if we are lucky and win, 5 minutes later they are back with backup and we are wiped clean.....

and this got nothing to do with not having enough skill or experience, it's simply because we don't have the luxury of making perfect grps, we have to be glad to find enough players to do rvr, while middies are just waiting for some ennemy in the BG to form their usual grp and pawn their asses.

i know it was the other way around 6 months ago, albs swarming the BG and having all the keeps all the time, we had a lot of fun, did legion and dragon raids... now we are lucky to get into DF to farm some seals, just sad that having all the keeps and all the bonusses is not enough for some of your buddies, so getting into DF is hard, getting past the merchants without being gerykilled is even harder

and don't tell me there was no whining on the forum when albs where stronger!

why did they move the lvl spots in emain? why did they remove the healers from telekeeps? why is worldbuilding in albion behind ?

just my 2 cents

monty

I can only confirm what Pirith said. Mid had once the same probs, and in addition a great lack in players. That is, why i switched realm Hib -> Mid.

As i already said. Choose 1 that says where to go/ what to do in RvR. And rest just excute what he says. Dont have to be the same all the time. Best is u switch, so every1 can experience how it feels. It's also very important to analyze a combat. And to find out, who didnt excuted the orders and ask why he didnt..
But everything else is luck.. or needs lots of experienced players.
In addition i suggest every1 to use TS. And really accept advices from good players like: Alandrian,Cucori,Panach,Saplikon,Lon,Jibiel,Ciclon,...



@Panach you truely speak of yesterday night in wilton. Might I remember you:
It was a full group albs (cleric sorc...) vs (Bd thane skald,+max 3).
I have even seen that fg camping inside the keep while we have only been 3 outside.
Actually with an aemezz and assist u wouldnt even had lost 1...


@Monty: Dont tell Mids we zerged u all the time. I can only remind u the 3mids vs 16albs (Albs completly wiped twice). That wasnt neither due to lack of ppl nore due to lack of the right classes;).

Of coz entering Emain in low number gets harder and harder. Our new level 50's want to RvR of coz. And the 50's sitting on their 10th twink wanna RvR as well. And every1 is waiting. Waiting for some INC....

But its not the way: ./ac hey Midgard 4 albs in Emain. Lets get everything we can to completly extinct albion.....
Usually we keep it low and ask only for an appropriate help so we dont* outnumber U.


Pirith thx for the flowers. But you have done also great work since a long time in Midgard. U have been the first and only level 50 to support me skalli, when we started in Mid. So I say: Thank U, Pirith : )


Greetz
Nes


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Haiden,Lightning,Decameron,Ezequiel

i must agree there is a litle problem with teamplay in alb ..
and i dont say i am perfect and that it doeanst refer me ...


was right we were more but u said : thane bd .. those are quite powerfull clases ....

RvR is not about getting the strongest duel classes...

Aemezz and assist..

I think the announced "new duel system" would help Albion to learn RvR a bit..

Now Albion only gets wiped everytime without even a chance to avoid that (except not going to RvR). The Midgroup is simply perfect, so no one can learn anything there. You try method number 1: You are wiped completely.. You try method number2: You are wiped completely..
same is true for every other try.
With that kind of new duel system (group versus group) we could practice against and equally unexperienced enemy and learn step by step.



And I don't think, the Mids faced the same problem.. Albion never was that good organized like this one GdRW group is. You had at the very least some times a day when there were RvR-Noobs there.

You are absolutely wrong Topa - Midgard had that Problem. This was before your days on this server. We were outnumbered, missing supporters and High Lev chars. And it took us quite a long time to get were we now are. I guess nearly 1 Year.
And we had to level without any exp bonusses and there was no organization at all.

And as you see many people stayed in Midgard and accepted the challenge, in my opinion it is absolutely boring to join the winning team..


So far Murax

hm not sure but i think when i started in june, midgard was stil in that situation which albion currently is , anyway i almost didnt see mids in emain than .
In wilton as well , but there was almost no ppl form all realms .. i was even sitting afk at devourers near mid tk watching mundial and never got killed..

Even if I was wrong, it cannot be, that you have to invest work first for having fun. When this is the official opinion of the majority and the staff I probably never will go to emain.

xD

- leveling is work
- learning to RvR is work
- organizing is work
- ....

Maybe u have little look on instant level 50 server. Test some classes and strategies....

Without work, you wont get anything in your life, Topa.

[Edit] The base of this game is RvR. That means groups and community. So you have to spend work in communication and organisation. [Edit]