I would prefer NF RA's as it is.. Personally yeah sure if there was some very well thought out changes that would fix current problems it could be implemented..

Old RA's will create more problems then it solves though..

Again this is just my opinion

What Problems should be solved?

imho ra's just stay part of the gameplay, as example, i dont care about getting a good first mezz by a good inc, purge3 and instant ae mezz makes this possible, and with old ra its just the change that this is not longer possible, so i have to take care and make a decent inc, else i get raped as bard.
The 30 min timer on the abilitys forces to use them wise and also to play maybe a bit better, cause there is no longer the way rescue by wasting ra's cause they have a 5min timer.
Nearsight without purge would kill me and my grp as bard, but why QQ ? Oh damn no purge3 QQ, so what? You can kite till you are able to push again, or stay nearby the tanktrain if possible, so many ways to solve this big problem, even by getting killed and rezzed the way i try to avoid . QQ changes nothing So why care about it, if OF RA come, change your gameplay or learn to play.

just my 2 cents...

Sonic1982 wrote:Nearsight without purge would kill me and my grp as bard, but why QQ ?

hib was the only realm I was thinking would be OK with NS under old RAs purge, since you should have 2 druids to clear the group if needed.

How is this instead of this imaginary adapting to a 2300range 2.0s spell crippling every caster:

40 Regrowth/Mending/Rejuvenation:
Cure Nearsight - Single Target Cure Nearsight.

Maidrion wrote:How is this instead of this imaginary adapting to a 2300range 2.0s spell crippling every caster:

40 Regrowth/Mending/Rejuvenation:
Cure Nearsight - Single Target Cure Nearsight.

yes plz

Thalien wrote:

Maidrion wrote:How is this instead of this imaginary adapting to a 2300range 2.0s spell crippling every caster:

40 Regrowth/Mending/Rejuvenation:
Cure Nearsight - Single Target Cure Nearsight.

yes plz

Not another custom change!
You wont let rangers get mos with old ras: Live without ns-heal then

thats a really mature way to deal with problems... i dont get this so you dont get that

though this is actually the way, the staff is dealing with custom changes since many years ... the good old fear of pandoras box

Bloodwyne wrote:thats a really mature way to deal with problems... i dont get this so you dont get that

though this is actually the way, the staff is dealing with custom changes since many years ... the good old fear of pandoras box

What pandora's box?

More requests to custom changes? Is that even possible, I mean, doing nothing is what makes people ask for custom changes more than anything anyway...

It's a completely useless argument tbh. In fact there are NO arguments to refuse making at least basic custom balance changes, whether it's old or new RAs.

seems like ur not playing long enough here to understand my post, im not at all against custom changes... i just said that the staff's main reason to do no custom changes were mostly their fear of pandoras box (namely if some custom changes will be done, other people will request more and more of them) which FOR ME is no reason to still apply some custom changes anyway...read my post again maybe

More custom changes makes the argument from holding on any patch-stands, like 1.69, completly unreliable.

I dont want more custom changes. I want a higher patch-stand and not this silly downgrading back to stone age of DAOC

Mythic made many corrections to DAOC in all this years... sure they did many wrong things like TOA and permit buffbots....but they dident do all changes wrong. Most of the balance-corrections were fine and good work. Old ras and this old fz is not good...its just trying to get the good old golden daoc-times back.

But the old daoc times havent been better because of the old fz, old ras or old patch-stands...they have been better because the game was new and players played together without this thinking about perfect skillings, perfect templates, perfect setup for building rvr-groups!

Old ras will bring much balance-problems in the game. And why? What do the people think will be better with old-ras? Much more cc...and i hate this stupid laze around while in mez, root, stun ... with old ras we all will be more spectators instead of actors then
And players with hybrid chars (will lose to spec det then) will not be welcome then in rvr-groups

I cant see a good thing at old ras. But maybe i am wrong and it will be totaly great... we will see. Staff will not change their mind because of any discussion in the forum. It doesent matter how good the arguments against their decision are

Greetings
Yol

The staff has already proven time and time again that they don't listen to the playerbase about RVR. I don't think even 10% of the rvr playerbase would support the lack of a cure nearsight. I am actually surprised that this topic hasn't been locked due to some silly reason like they usually do (which just dissuades people from posting even more in addition to the lack of response).

After a while you gotta just learn to not care anymore and either play or don't play the server....after it all it IS free so custom changes would be favors to the community rather than an obligation. And I don't think most of the GMs have time to help. That seems to me to be the only explanation for some of their decisions.

Panchos wrote:The staff has already proven time and time again that they don't listen to the playerbase about RVR[...]

The worst they can do , is to listen to those complains. Since most of these complaining guys don't even have any clue of RvR.

Ormilig wrote:

Panchos wrote:The staff has already proven time and time again that they don't listen to the playerbase about RVR[...]

The worst they can do , is to listen to those complains. Since most of these complaining guys don't even have any clue of RvR.

Wow. So all those people who complained about charge being overpowered in the current system, and cure nearsight being a necessity in OF RA's don't have a clue about RVR? You obviously don't have any clue of RVR than. Or, you have not looked at many complaints to the staff.

To outright ignore complaints because you think you have a superior "clue" of RVR is the worst way to run any sort of game.

Panchos wrote:

Ormilig wrote:

Panchos wrote:The staff has already proven time and time again that they don't listen to the playerbase about RVR[...]

The worst they can do , is to listen to those complains. Since most of these complaining guys don't even have any clue of RvR.

Wow. So all those people who complained about charge being overpowered in the current system, and cure nearsight being a necessity in OF RA's don't have a clue about RVR? You obviously don't have any clue of RVR than. Or, you have not looked at many complaints to the staff.

To outright ignore complaints because you think you have a superior "clue" of RVR is the worst way to run any sort of game.

Wrong.

Of course Charge is overpowered on Uthgard. No Bodyguard and no speedwarps nor a decent guard to counter it. But as far as i know the Uthgard Staff is currently working on that issue (Old RA + 1.69).

The worst thing a freeshard staff can do is to listen to people and i think Ormilig + others who share this point of view have either seen it on other freeshards or worked on others aswell.

Just take Yol as an example. Do you really wanna listen to a guy who complains about everything just to complain?

He totally reminds me of 99% of the forum users here that are posting actively. It's the same on every freeshard only those who are complaining post a lot and that should give the staff an objective PoV of the player basement?

The point is not to ignore everything, the point is to weed out the stupid remarks and consider the good rational ones.
In order to do that they have to rvr (in every aspect and on preferrably on all realms) on their own server which as far as I know some do, some hardly. We will see with ORA's on how this pans out.

Everyone has their own truth ofcourse but I think with cure nearsight, det for hybrid and insta/quicker ports we'd go a long way.