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Ronian
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Postby Ronian » Jun 01, 2010 18:07

Of course, Hibs currently have str relics which means a huge damage boost. So why do you think 628 critshot is high? I mean even Infs make 400 to 500+ with pa on pd4.

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Postby zaszeadora » Jun 01, 2010 18:07

Something is wrong when a ranger class can outdamage a infil/sb on melee and range... and the he is rank 12 is not a excuse, this happens with almost all rangers.

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Postby Ronian » Jun 01, 2010 18:10

Guys stop crying. Play like Dragoonn (nice fight but you were unlucky a bit). He almost killed me with SLASH weapons :)

Maybe Shar Melee Rangers are OP but not the class itself. I often speak to luri hybrids (low rr) and they have hard time.

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Postby Cyan » Jun 01, 2010 18:14

Ronian wrote:Guys stop crying. Play like Dragoonn (nice fight but you were unlucky a bit). He almost killed me with SLASH weapons :)

Maybe Shar Melee Rangers are OP but not the class itself. I often speak to luri hybrids (low rr) and they have hard time.


Almost it's not "killed"...Almost can't allow to get rps.

Btw i have lot of screens, for sure my assassin is op and u are nerfed :D.

EDIT: Ask to an hunter if he does the same dmg...I can kill an hunter even if he uses ip (or if he incs me first with bow).

Ask to celad...

But Hunters are OP the same way of infis and sbs, rangers are the only nerfed...

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Postby Ronian » Jun 01, 2010 18:17

Cyan wrote:
Ronian wrote:Guys stop crying. Play like Dragoonn (nice fight but you were unlucky a bit). He almost killed me with SLASH weapons :)

Maybe Shar Melee Rangers are OP but not the class itself. I often speak to luri hybrids (low rr) and they have hard time.


Almost it's not "killed"...Almost can't allow to get rps.

Btw i have lot of screens, for sure my assassin is op and u are nerfed :D.

Holavez


151 icestorm (0,77 growth ok not that high) with 71 celtic dual 239 str and 293 dex (without dex pot these days^^) and melee relics is good damage but I didnt get strcon debuff. with strcon debuff it is like 120 and without relics maybe 100.

And high rank infs make 100 to 120 with high gr styles on pd4 plus viper3.

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Postby Traxx » Jun 01, 2010 18:27

u all should stop complaining about rangers! i killed ronia with my champ in 3 hits..so..they cant be op..but maybe champs were...think about it^^
and maybe u should stop playing add-stealther and lvl up a grp char to do fair rvr imao
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Postby Cyan » Jun 01, 2010 18:27

Ronian wrote:
Cyan wrote:
Ronian wrote:Guys stop crying. Play like Dragoonn (nice fight but you were unlucky a bit). He almost killed me with SLASH weapons :)

Maybe Shar Melee Rangers are OP but not the class itself. I often speak to luri hybrids (low rr) and they have hard time.


Almost it's not "killed"...Almost can't allow to get rps.

Btw i have lot of screens, for sure my assassin is op and u are nerfed :D.

Holavez


151 icestorm (0,77 growth ok not that high) with 71 celtic dual 239 str and 293 dex (without dex pot these days^^) and melee relics is good damage but I didnt get strcon debuff. with strcon debuff it is like 120 and without relics maybe 100.

And high rank infs make 100 to 120 with high gr styles on pd4 plus viper3.


U are in a wrong way, u hit me for 628 dmg (and u are not bow spec), it's lot of dmg, i haven't ip and i need to run close to u to deal my dmg, if i can't evade due to bugs and u have PD + bufss + bugged Damage table i can't win.

The only way i can make PA is to take MOS5 (and maybe than i ill able to do dmg like u, but i think less cause PD), bu if i take mos5 + viper at 6l4 i can't take other ras, it means that i can kill only rangers but a ranger can kill almost every class in the game, is that fair?

And if i make PA is not sure to win, u have another nerfed ability called IP (lol) so u don't care about PA.

Or of course istant stun + damage (rr5).

PS: I have 66 dual wield and 51 slash, and with dual shadows (merc style level 50) i make uhm a lot of dmg about 52 :D.

I dont know what u intend with high rr infi, so do i need to be 10l to get chances to kill nerfed rangers?

DEGA: U have ip, purge, static tempest, debuffs and u are an hybrid, so it's not the same.

I play stealther because my wiz is useless in rvr (the same for the arms).

Holavez

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Postby Celad » Jun 01, 2010 18:35

Traxx wrote:u all should stop complaining about rangers! i killed ronia with my champ in 3 hits..so..they cant be op..but maybe champs were...think about it^^


Yes we know, seems every hib class can easily kill rangers. :roll:

Traxx wrote:and maybe u should stop playing add-stealther and lvl up a grp char to do fair rvr imao


Don't spam crap please. Not every stealther is a black adder or similar noob.
Cyan is not an adder, i can assure you.

Now stop complaining about rangers, staff will do nothing and we know this, so back on topic. I don't want every stealther topic closed for rangers QQ.

P.S. : Cyan t'ho detto che io non ce l'ho IP :D .
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Postby Traxx » Jun 01, 2010 18:44

i didnt used any ras on the duel with ronia..just stunned him and killed him..and stealther got str/con debuff too or not?
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Postby Ronian » Jun 01, 2010 18:46

Traxx wrote:i didnt used any ras on the duel with ronia..just stunned him and killed him..and stealther got str/con debuff too or not?


Yes, they do. My damage after debuff:
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Postby Cyan » Jun 01, 2010 18:47

Traxx wrote:i didnt used any ras on the duel with ronia..just stunned him and killed him..and stealther got str/con debuff too or not?


This is completely off topic i think, u aren't explaining why MOS is op or why don't implement truesight, u are talking about a duel, which kind of utility can have duel vs toon of the same realm? :D

Ronia : Post all the screen not only the last 3 hits XD

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Postby Ronian » Jun 01, 2010 18:49

Cyan wrote:
Traxx wrote:i didnt used any ras on the duel with ronia..just stunned him and killed him..and stealther got str/con debuff too or not?


This is completely off topic i think, u aren't explaining why MOS is op or why don't implement truesight, u are talking about a duel, which kind of utility can have duel vs toon of the same realm? :D

Holave


You stated that ranger is on the wrong table or that he doesnt make any damage. By the way I did start with sidestun and he didnt die instantly :lol:

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Postby vangonaj » Jun 01, 2010 19:20

Ronian wrote:
Traxx wrote:i didnt used any ras on the duel with ronia..just stunned him and killed him..and stealther got str/con debuff too or not?


Yes, they do. My damage after debuff:
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Yes i think ranger is in bm damage table. UAHAHAHAHA. :D

Ill repeat this. I saw Ronia duel dragon, and win XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Postby Seyha » Jun 01, 2010 19:45

Strange discussion. Why are we talking about how OP Rangers are now in a thread about OF RA stealth?
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Postby vangonaj » Jun 01, 2010 19:46

Because people cant talk about stealth without QQ about rangers.
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