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Why do you think the Ranger is OP ?

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Ronian Phoenix Knight Posts: 1556 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 01:00	by Ronian » May 18, 2010 17:38 @Breeze Signed. I hit for 100 to 120 with my best style after (0,98 gr) vs infs after debuff with a 3.9 piercer and they hit back for 80+ with their 3.3 weapons, plus viper3. @Celad I speak about tanking like a Paladin in PvM before blockfix, nothing more @realac0 LOL. Sure slash is the best for soloing to have a good anytimer and fight vs 36 to 59% resists in RvR. On the other hand 118 str/con debuff will gimp your damage more than with piercing. I didnt say anything about grp RvR.

Breeze Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00	by Breeze » May 18, 2010 17:39 Also PD rangers and Viper assassins is not the only good classes on uth either Only reason ranger gets this much attention is because of the volley nerf.. Rangers have ALWAYS had strong melee on live too.. Scouts had their shields which was damn OP with pre-nerf volley.. Hunters are missing their pets, which afaik is being worked on.. Now hunters do need a fix thats for sure.. But the only reason rangers suddenly get attention is because they're prolly the archer class that actually works most livelike atm.. If hunters got their disease pets or well just upgraded pets at all they would rule the archer battle no problem..

Celad Eagle Knight Posts: 685 Joined: Dec 17, 2009 01:00 Location: Italy	by Celad » May 18, 2010 17:41 Breeze wrote:All the other viper3 assasins who whine about ranger PD, should just shut up tbh [...] Now let me tell you, it's not easy to enter emain RvR as a ranger right after BG either.. Your char gets much stronger at rr5 when you get the full L51 effect of your wpns etc, your rr5 ability and so on.. But people just give up, and think that it's rangers fault that they can't gain any rps.. [...] Look at it from a hib perspective for a second.. What a realm of comedians... - Are stealthers all assassins with Viper3? NO! - Is for all the other classes easy to go in RvR where you are 4L2? NO! - Look at it from a hib perspective for a second... Do you mean the realm that uses rangers to tank highlords? That has s/c charges when they don't are allowed in hib during classic times? That has Animist almost complete while bd's pets are are lowest prio and wtf about Necromancer?

Ronian Phoenix Knight Posts: 1556 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 01:00	by Ronian » May 18, 2010 17:46 Trust me BD has more spells work correctly than the Animist. You do play Animist? I do! Hunter sucks only 290+ spear damage vs nightshades

Celad Eagle Knight Posts: 685 Joined: Dec 17, 2009 01:00 Location: Italy	by Celad » May 18, 2010 17:50 Ronian wrote:Trust me BD has more spells work correctly than the Animist. You do play Animist? I do! Do you play BD? I think no... but i'm sure that you are using s/c charges! And you can tank HL too! Ronian wrote:Hunter sucks only 290+ spear damage vs nightshades BUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA Wow.... yes!!!! Hunters are the real OP class!!!!!!!

Breeze Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00	by Breeze » May 18, 2010 17:59 Celad makes some real strong points with his laugh spam Lol, write something that makes sense instead of just spamming "HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA", it makes you look like a child craving attention or so? Lots of classes need a fix :p That's not the point, the point is that we don't need to nerf the classes which are actually working properly, we just need to bring the gimpy classes that doesn't work properly up to speed..

Breeze Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00	by Breeze » May 18, 2010 18:02 realac0 wrote: Breeze wrote:OH MY GOD All this worthless whine guys.. The only guy who might have anything to say in this thread is Noir because he plays at rr10 and still without Viper3.. All the other viper3 assasins who whine about ranger PD, should just shut up tbh You _have_ to remember that in ANY patch in DAoC history there has been strong and weak chars.. Yes, rangers are good as it is atm.. Unbeatable, game breaking? Not by a long shot.. Some of the people in this thread are thid gimps rr4l2 who just came out of BG in to big boy rvr.. Now let me tell you, it's not easy to enter emain RvR as a ranger right after BG either.. Your char gets much stronger at rr5 when you get the full L51 effect of your wpns etc, your rr5 ability and so on.. But people just give up, and think that it's rangers fault that they can't gain any rps.. Look at it from a hib perspective for a second.. I have a ranger, i solo atleast 95% of the time, when I came out of BG i couldn't earn [I am a little bunny and like flowers] rps either, getting trashed by high RR infils with Viper3 all the time and ofc zerged by the elite stealth zerg guilds (wont name any names).. Sure it [I am a little bunny and like flowers] me off a lot, but more than anything it just made me think about what I could do to beat those damn infils, i got my [I am a little bunny and like flowers] together and bought a damage add bracer among other things.. Worked on perfecting my tactics, and even though i still lost many fights vs viper3 assasins (with my oh so overpowered PD) i just kept going, and eventually figured out ways to atleast have a chance.. Now when I'm nearing RR6, i still get my ass handed to me once in a while even though who have ALL 6 relics, which is a huge advantage.. Any good assassin at my rr or higher always stand a chance against me.. We all do what we can to make our chars as strong as possible, rangers specc some PD, assassins go viper. Now quit [I am a little bunny and like flowers] you are right man!!! we are all 4l2 NOOBS that come out from thid!!! just le me point 1 thing: for me, the real noobs, are ppl that roll rangers. for sure are not noobs ppl that play ns's, or hero's. I am sure that if something will be done, 90% of rangers will quit and start play some other class because will understand that: running with pd5+ip+rr5 and just spam anytime+conver on side stun will not work and will need to mutch other things to win. anyway, now, i quit too, i haven't nothing other to say. bb Clueless people lol, how many people do you think invest in PD5? Almost no one.. I'm nearly RR6 on my ranger, hybrid specc, and i only have PD2..i do even better than i did with my pure melee specc and PD4...

Celad Eagle Knight Posts: 685 Joined: Dec 17, 2009 01:00 Location: Italy	by Celad » May 18, 2010 18:04 Breeze wrote:That's not the point, the point is that we don't need to nerf the classes which are actually working properly, we just need to bring the gimpy classes that doesn't work properly up to speed.. Yes, and in the meanwhile we can have hundreds of 6LX (easy and free 6LX) rangers that can kill almost everythinhg. I laugh because your talking about rangers are simply the proof that Eclipsed is asking for. Oh QQ rangers are not OP QQ QQ we can just tank HL and easy kill everything that don't use viper3 QQ sometimes a high rr SB with viper3 can kill me so i'm not OP QQ QQ!!! Bah... Last edited by Celad on May 18, 2010 18:07, edited 1 time in total.

Stressed Myrmidon Posts: 69 Joined: Apr 23, 2010 00:00	by Stressed » May 18, 2010 18:04 Breeze wrote:Celad makes some real strong points with his laugh spam Lol, write something that makes sense instead of just spamming "HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA", it makes you look like a child craving attention or so? Lots of classes need a fix :p That's not the point, the point is that we don't need to nerf the classes which are actually working properly, we just need to bring the gimpy classes that doesn't work properly up to speed.. So rangers are working properly - definitely time to roll my ranger

Breeze Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00	by Breeze » May 18, 2010 18:08 If I have to give you another little hint that many people forget here, it's that the specc AF buff is actually pretty powerful even though you use a weak one.. Rangers get specc AF through selfbuffs, already there it helps a lot.. Many other classes forget it inbetween all the other pot barrels etc.. The people who do use it take considerably less dmg in melee.. Use what you got, learn your classes, quit whining and evolve your tactics..

Stressed Myrmidon Posts: 69 Joined: Apr 23, 2010 00:00	by Stressed » May 18, 2010 18:09 Tobletwo wrote:What he said is that paladin gets hit harder with his plate armor, 200 more AF and god know how much more constitution than a pd5 ranger does. Sad but true. How do I spec my sb to tank Highlords...Funny how this post was satrted with the questions why are rangers op - give proof...I think Ronia just did..? Enuff said

Breeze Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00	by Breeze » May 18, 2010 18:12 How do i specc my ranger to do 110 dmg dot ticks every other second? Stop being stupid, classes are different..

Celad Eagle Knight Posts: 685 Joined: Dec 17, 2009 01:00 Location: Italy	by Celad » May 18, 2010 18:13 Breeze wrote:If I have to give you another little hint that many people forget here, it's that the specc AF buff is actually pretty powerful even though you use a weak one.. Rangers get specc AF through selfbuffs, already there it helps a lot.. Many other classes forget it inbetween all the other pot barrels etc.. The people who do use it take considerably less dmg in melee.. OMG REALLY????!!!!! Let all use AF buffs and easy kill all the OP rangers my fellows!! Who is the children here?

Breeze Gryphon Knight Posts: 219 Joined: Feb 06, 2010 01:00	by Breeze » May 18, 2010 18:15 Celad wrote: Breeze wrote:If I have to give you another little hint that many people forget here, it's that the specc AF buff is actually pretty powerful even though you use a weak one.. Rangers get specc AF through selfbuffs, already there it helps a lot.. Many other classes forget it inbetween all the other pot barrels etc.. The people who do use it take considerably less dmg in melee.. OMG REALLY????!!!!! Let all use AF buffs and easy kill all the OP rangers my fellows!! Who is the children here? It's a step in the right direction, just one of many tips any good player could give you :p Learn how to play your class to it's full potential.. It's a worthless discussion..

Stressed Myrmidon Posts: 69 Joined: Apr 23, 2010 00:00	by Stressed » May 18, 2010 18:15 Breeze wrote:How do i specc my ranger to do 110 dmg dot ticks every other second? Stop being stupid, classes are different.. That's easy, u just cant have as well unless your rr7+ purge so get stunned and then killed after only dotting a few times. Breeze you seem to offer nothing of value to this discussion, saying l2play isnt an answer its a childish reaction to something you dont seem to like.