How can you lose due to numbers in 8v8 ? Each time you post you make less sense.

It was a relic raid, just like any other. The problem is it wasn't at 4 AM when the "pro relic raiders do it" so obviously we had lots of people come to defend. I'm not noob at relic raids, I'm just bored to death by them, no challenge whatsoever.

lol lol, love how DG are elite zergers

Oh please. If DAoC would take account of positional advances in fights like hills or forests and would have a collision-system along with engine-supported formations and battle-lines, then MAYBE it could be a little challenging to lead a zerg. But this is DAoC, you just have to spam in your scum battlegroup when to stick and when to attack, maybe tell some latecomers where the zerg meets up. To compare this to the art of 8vs8, which can be as sophisticated as modern football in terms of tactics (at least on a 100% classic server), is just antic.

hahahahahahahaha xDDDDDDDDDDD

this is like a good Jim Carrey comedy

So you acknowledged you are a noob in the reli raid and zerg business. No problem, play as you like, but don't tell others about things you don't understand at all.

So all you see in this case is, we lost due to numbers (standard 8vs8 excuse for loosing). What you, as a absolutely reli and zerg boon, don't see is how it came to these outnumberation.

Was the reli raid quick enough? Enough rams, quick enough build? Where there stealther spys positioned in key places? Where there interception groups planed to intercept incomming enemys before they reach the relic? etc., etc.

Propably the reli raid was announced through /broad and all the x-realmers had to do was to log they'r caster in the other realm for free ar pees

can gm's implement titles like:
<Elite Zerg Commander> for running with 231+ slot of ppl
<Elite Zerg Master> for never getting outnumbered

why are you called DG, why not <Zerg Science> =) dont get me wrong i dont mind your play style at all, play what makes you enjoy the game just dont come here with: <Me Tarzan, you Jane> attitude.

NOT, i repeat NOT going off topic here x-D

/salute cya out there

koruun wrote:To compare this to the art of 8vs8, which can be as sophisticated as modern football in terms of tactics (at least on a 100% classic server), is just antic.

So you got your routes on your wrist like Eli Manning when you play DAoC, hmm?

Nobody said that zerging is just like 8vs8. It is just another kind of challenge. Of course you need not that precise tactics like you need in 8vs8 during the fight itself, but it is more about pre-fight tactics, who is running in front of the zerg, doing attacks from the flank and stuff.

Maybe you haven't seen such zergfights yet on Uthgard. But this has happened on live-servers many times, and if you have two equal-numbered zergs with similar setups (like mids had some casters with themon live, believe it or not!), you could have had some decent zergfights in the past.
DG did such things on german live-servers in the past, and I know it because I played against them. But for those actions you need persons with the same idea, which you rarely find on Uthgard.

Toblerone wrote:I've been on one such on uthgard with a cleric.

Toblerone wrote:I'm not noob at relic raids

q.e.d.

Xuji wrote:can gm's implement titles like:
<Elite Zerg Commander> for running with 231+ slot of ppl
<Elite Zerg Master> for never getting outnumbered

I can do that too!

<our group does never add!>: For not adding two times in a row.
<they added us before!>: For adding once because of damngood reasons.
<let them do 1vs1>: For not adding a 1vs1.
<LOL KILL THOSE TWO, VOLLEY'D US LAST TIME>: For adding a 1vs1.

after achieving the four titles above:

<DOUBLE STANDARD!>

The bottom line is you'll never earn credit for leading a big zerg. On the other hand, you'll never earn credit by playing midgard at all either while new RAs last, so zerging is maybe the best option for you.

And remember kids, when you run over an 8man with 2-3 full groups you beat them with superior skill and tactics.

koruun wrote:The bottom line is you'll never earn credit for leading a big zerg. On the other hand, you'll never earn credit by playing midgard at all either while new RAs last, so zerging is maybe the best option for you.

+1

koruun wrote:The bottom line is you'll never earn credit for leading a big zerg. On the other hand, you'll never earn credit by playing midgard at all either while new RAs last, so zerging is maybe the best option for you.

Well, you do earn credit, not from your enemies but from your realm.

Agree on your second point though

tharid wrote:

koruun wrote:The bottom line is you'll never earn credit for leading a big zerg. On the other hand, you'll never earn credit by playing midgard at all either while new RAs last, so zerging is maybe the best option for you.

Well, you do earn credit, not from your enemies but from your realm.

It can't be possible that an entire realm is that limited. Only ones who'll respect such behaviour are the ones at his side.

I did never say 8vs8 can't be challenging and fun. Actually i spend more than 70% of my online time in 8vs8 groups, it's the most fun for me in daoc.

But it's not the only endgame and other things need other kind of skills, you can't compare. That's all i' m saying.
And i never said i am tarzan at anything (more like superman*g, just kidding). Show me where i compared myself to anything other than a donkey ^^

You 8vs8er say 8vs8 skill is the only skill that counts in daoc, and judge everone by your skillometer. Thats just sad, all i wanted to point my finger in.

Mhm no, ok honestly: i just needed a flamewar to distract me from boredom at work, ty for participating

holsten-knight wrote: i spend more than 70% of my online time in 8vs8 groups, it's the most fun for me in daoc.

zomg lolz

thread started to get ridiculous crappy since first post this dg-add in here.

mod pls fix and delete ;F

holsten-knight wrote:Actually i spend more than 70% of my online time in 12vs8 groups, it's the most fun for me in daoc.

Fixed for truth.

Toblerone wrote:

holsten-knight wrote:Actually i spend more than 70% of my online time in 12vs8 groups, it's the most fun for me in daoc.

Fixed for truth.

Doesn't the DG banner tell a similar story...