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Postby barto22 » Jun 22, 2016 16:00

Rudi wrote:in your uth.v1 videos you always seemed to "loop on inc" on your bard, letting the other group cc first and after the fight was on you came in from behind starting to participate. Was that depending on setup or is that the best way of engaging open field incs? Would you recommend that behavior for sorc aswell?
It is obviously not appropriate/not needed for healers in the current setting.


Against albs I would imagine because a sorc has the range advantage on mez. And against miss it's usually better to overextend the tanks.


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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 23, 2016 13:35

Zakoraya wrote:Cait,

Here are some Warden questions:

1. My thoughts were to go 49 Nurture, 34 Blades, 28 Regrowth. Do you think that would work?
2. Starting points - how should they be distributed to be optimised for RvR?
3. What would be your priority RA's be as a Warden on new Uthgard?

A final question - when running an 8man setup with 2 Druids, would you agree that it makes sense to have 1 Nurture Druid and 1 Nature Druid?

Thanks for all your help :)


1. You won't benefit from weapon alot, your main job besides Healing is to rupt supports/Casters and occasionally sidesnare so your dmg is really negligible. I would really go for 33 or even 42 regrowth and put the rest into blades after 49 nurture.
2. 15dex 10empathy
3.
Lw1
Dex2
Twf
Purge
Mcl2
Acu2
Mastery of the Arcane 2
4. If you have a setgrp with the same players then it is viable to run a nature druid, but some people will have to charge Dex/qui in order to get everyone buffed. Since Hib has an easy to obtain dq charge with pookah cloak it isn't much of a problem tho.

For a pure 8v8 build I'd definitely suggest 49nurture 42regrowth 10Blades, if you want one that has a little more dmg for solo/smallmen go for 33regrowth and 29blades
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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 23, 2016 13:48

Rudi wrote:in your uth.v1 videos you always seemed to "loop on inc" on your bard, letting the other group cc first and after the fight was on you came in from behind starting to participate. Was that depending on setup or is that the best way of engaging open field incs? Would you recommend that behavior for sorc aswell?
It is obviously not appropriate/not needed for healers in the current setting.


First priority for a bard is to get endurance running on inc. A first cc for Hibs is usually not worth taking the risk because Mids have double demezzers and Albs have double demezzer+mezz dampening on sorc. It is usually much more effective to mezz when Healers/Sorc/Minstrel are busy already.
The only situations where I wouldn't loop back on inc with a bard is if you get a really favorable inc that enables you to catch multiple people in an aoe mezz, if you're facing a caster heavy kite grp or if there is a second Bard in the grp.

For a Sorc it really depends on the inc and the enemy grp setup aswell as their awareness. You can run into huge trouble if you're trying to mezz on inc because often times the enemy mezzer can dump an insta cc on you before the spell finishes and thus force you into a really bad position where you could get trained by tanks and possibly die on inc. There's also a risk of getting Nearsighted right on inc if you position to offensively which would leave you useless for a whole minute if you don't have purge up.
If you're not sure what to do it is always safer to loop back, pan the camera towards your opponents, evaluate the situation and then decide what to do.
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Postby hazelhimself » Jun 23, 2016 21:40

Nef Melody wrote:
Zakoraya wrote:Cait,

Here are some Warden questions:

1. My thoughts were to go 49 Nurture, 34 Blades, 28 Regrowth. Do you think that would work?
2. Starting points - how should they be distributed to be optimised for RvR?
3. What would be your priority RA's be as a Warden on new Uthgard?

A final question - when running an 8man setup with 2 Druids, would you agree that it makes sense to have 1 Nurture Druid and 1 Nature Druid?

Thanks for all your help :)


1. You won't benefit from weapon alot, your main job besides Healing is to rupt supports/Casters and occasionally sidesnare so your dmg is really negligible. I would really go for 33 or even 43 regrowth and put the rest into blades after 49 nurture.
2. 15dex 10empathy
3.
Lw1
Dex2
Twf
Purge
Mcl2
Acu3
Mota3
4. If you have a setgrp with the same players then it is viable to run a nature druid, but some people will have to charge Dex/qui in order to get everyone buffed. Since Hib has an easy to obtain dq charge with pookah cloak it isn't much of a problem tho.


why mota3 on a warden? :o

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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 23, 2016 22:06

Mastery of the arts to improve that slow spec heal
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Postby hazelhimself » Jun 23, 2016 22:37

Nef Melody wrote:Mastery of the arts to improve that slow spec heal


can a warden even spec that? according to nixians he cant. but hey...wouldnt be the first time the charbuilder is ****** up :>

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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 23, 2016 23:04

hazelhimself wrote:
Nef Melody wrote:Mastery of the arts to improve that slow spec heal


can a warden even spec that? according to nixians he cant. but hey...wouldnt be the first time the charbuilder is ****** up :>


Actually I think you're right, Friar and warden were not able to spec mastery of the arts, thanks for pointing that out. I will correct my post
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Postby Zerberus » Jun 27, 2016 10:18

as a Skald with the old RAs without SOS

which RAs would you prefer ? and why ?

thank you ;)

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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 27, 2016 16:53

Zerberus wrote:as a Skald with the old RAs without SOS

which RAs would you prefer ? and why ?

thank you ;)


Definitely Lw1 and Purge first, I am not sure how good Fury of the gods will be, but I think it's alot worse than the new RA Aotg, maybe someone who specced this or is planing to do so during beta can comment.
If you're only playing 8v8 then there is no need to spec IP, but if you're soloing/smallmen aswell I'd recommend to do so.

4L4
Lw1
Purge
Fa2
Ip

Purge,First aid,IP and maybe fotg are the only useful actives you can get, unless you're 100% solo then Avoid pain might be good too.

After these it's pretty much passive ras only

At 7L0 I'd go for
Lw1
Purge
Fa2
Ip
Avoidance of Magic 2
Dex2 -> Mopain 2
Str 3 -> Mastery of Arms 2

From there on it's personal preference if you want #1 more magic resists #2 higher swingspeed #3 more crits or 4th option, some Parry for soloing/smallmen

It's the most cost efficient to level the percentage based ras to 2 first (mopain,moarms,aom,moparry) because they grant the same amount each level but the cost per % increases alot with each.
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Postby Zerberus » Jun 28, 2016 07:39

Thank you Nef Melody,

with purge fa2 and IP i agree with you but why is longwind1 necessary when there is a shaman or you have an endu pot ?

or maybe tireless for endu reg ?

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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 28, 2016 17:48

Zerberus wrote:Thank you Nef Melody,

with purge fa2 and IP i agree with you but why is longwind1 necessary when there is a shaman or you have an endu pot ?

or maybe tireless for endu reg ?


The endurance range isn't that high so you'll sometimes be out of range for it, also if you're using styles and sprint at the same time then you might run ooe. Tireless is pretty bad, might be worth 1 point max. but I don't think it will be.
And if you ever run solo or a smallmen without a Shaman you won't have endu 5 so you definitely need it for that
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Postby Capass7x1 » Jun 28, 2016 18:53

Paladin RA priorities in order?

Purge, then...

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Postby holsten-knight » Jun 28, 2016 18:59

Delete and respec to endu pot!

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Postby Makish » Jun 28, 2016 19:45

Capass7x1 wrote:Paladin RA priorities in order?

Purge, then...



Det3
Purge
Det5

..oh, wait...
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Postby Pirate » Jun 29, 2016 00:09

Makish wrote:
Capass7x1 wrote:Paladin RA priorities in order?

Purge, then...



Det3
Purge
Det5

..oh, wait...



I see what you did there :wink:

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