What would make you play in Agramon?

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Postby Ati » Jan 09, 2009 13:45

i have only 1 character this is my SVG. . .
i was a BG nerd with him . . . L5-45 only by BG RvR Xp . . . so when i caped out i went for Agra. . .sadly no grps for so low. . . but i still tryed as much as possible . . .kill solos (svg makes some huge dps sometimes if lucky). . . or most of the time to add. . .as i played like that 4h a day, pure solo, then i started to get few grps. . .i dont care about dieing...i do it for fun, most ppl give up so easly, im not. . .sometimes ppl whine on /b that i rp feed enemys. . .but as long as i kow that i can kill few i wount give up. . .for now i am allrdy L49 and considering some fast solo PvE to reach L50 when server is online again.

My advice . . . just keep trying to get any kills there is. . . even if u get roll overed by a FG . . . dont quit KEEP TRYING ! if all could think like me, there would be GREAT increase on NUMBERS on AGRAMON ! And when the numbers increase there would be a killable thing for every1 !

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Postby panachier » Jan 09, 2009 14:24

@ati

maybe it's not the best solution to find a group... if you look like smdy that rush and rush again without a chance, people will think you are a noob and maybe won't invite you even with level 50...

i think it's better to reach level 50 quickly if you ding RR out of thid.

i just can talk for myself... I have nothing against inviting new players in agra, but if i know that smdy is a noob and will be a pain in the ass, i won't invite if help is needed.
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Postby tazok » Jan 09, 2009 14:39

There almost no such a thing like rushing without a chance. I solo alot and most of the time there are a few solos around or a chance to add on fight.

The trick is to avoid the groups around. Just stay clear of he main routes and hide alot near main routes so you can pick your fights.

for all new players in agra I would say, try solo/duo a bit. try to pick your own fights and you learn better how to play your char then in a group.

although group play and solo/duo have there own special tricks too ofcourse.
but first master solo play a bit i would suggest.

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Postby Xares » Jan 09, 2009 18:05

I think Uthgard needs a charwipe. Because, its very hard to start with low RR in Agra. There are only High RR people. Ok on live there is the same, BUT on live are 1xxx Players and on Uthgard?

I tried with my friend to make some RvR in Agra (my friend is rr4 and im rr3). Yes there was enough enemys in Agra but we found only rr6+ and they were more. So we invitet more people, they were also just rr4 and we still found only rr6+ Albs or Hibs.

What I try to say is, sometimes a freeshard need something like a charwipe. Just look at the I50 Server, they make all 6 months a wipe because they know if there are only 150 player and all are RR9+, the new players never have a chance.

Of Course the people with high RR, are against this, but its a freeshard. You never paid for something.

Sorry for my english :)

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Postby panachier » Jan 09, 2009 18:12

@tazok running alone in agra with a zerk level 46 if you have no other experience than BG is pure suicide, your main target would be casters and you won't be able to kill him during charge... so level 50 first.

@xares maybe the reason is not the RR... you can't compare agra and BG... you need much more skill in agra and RR doesnt do a huge difference. you'll see there are lot of noobs RR6+ (/mememe) with some skill you can do easy RPs. get a nice equipment, a nice setup and you can do some RPs.

(just a tip, there is a noob cabby that always take the way from alb gate to hib gate taking by the trees spot... even if you are 3 or 4 he 'll come back and try again to give you RPs )
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Postby EvilAliv3 » Jan 09, 2009 18:44

What would bring me to Agramon?? ... A new PC, mine 'lags' a lot there...
Grapphic issues, my PC lags a lot each time an inc, near CK or milegate(MG for 1st time only) and also random small spikes....

That makes it all unplayable when running FG and bad but ot so much on small groups of 4-5
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Postby Smooth » Jan 11, 2009 12:34

Set thid level cap to 47.
More players leveling outside of Thid, not only those who reached 4L2 already.
More players leveling in Agra.

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Postby CalvoHP » Jan 11, 2009 19:06

severely offtopic
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Postby Chemical_Brother » Jan 11, 2009 19:11

yeah, thanks.
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Postby Xares » Jan 11, 2009 22:14

@Panach it was the RR... Our chars are full equipment and i play DAoC since 3 Years (Live and Freeshards). I think we know how to play our chars, but its a difference to have charge2 and det2 with 3L9 or charge2 and det5 with 5L9.

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Postby panachier » Jan 11, 2009 22:43

@xares so get charge 1 and det4.... that should be oki...

come on, you can't always complain about the RR. most of the people that are in agra, are there from a long time, so they know each others , know how to react in any case, that needs some habits.

when i play with some players that are always the same, i know for exemple that if we are around CK we'll kite cause the hill is a real problem. when you fight close to gate you know that some people will kite to the gate while others will just rush etc...

the problem in agra is that you have always the same people around and that others players find some bad reasons to not come.

when i see some people telling " i don't want to XP till 50 cause XP is so low" and in the same post he says that he got some chars in thid wilton and breamar... don't you see a problem?

when you say that the problem is the RR... everybody began with low rank. my cabby started rvr in agra with RR3 i think and after a year maybe, i'am 6L+... that's not very high rank, i know. but that's really enough to fight anybody... there are no difference between RR5 and and RR7. and you can get RR5 in one month maybe, and if you are really affraid of the high RR around, get a friend with you. not any solo char could kill a duo if you play a bit well even if he is high RR.

but i see some new faces in agra, i don't know if they are just reroll, but i think rvr can be more interesting for everybody. that would be perfect if old players agree to run with new ones sometimes ;-)

i would just say come and try the experience, you'll enjoy it... maybe not everytime at beginings , but that like learning to drive a bicycle, you fall sometimes but once you know how that works you are better and better and you have fun and try new things... ( i could have done a sexual allusion in place of bicycle but H man is around for sure^^)


PS: i love RvR on forum, @chemical and calvo: pwned /hug (<== this is a joke ;-))
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Postby DarkRef » Jan 12, 2009 00:13

Ati wrote:i have only 1 character this is my SVG. . .
i was a BG nerd with him . . . L5-45 only by BG RvR Xp . . . so when i caped out i went for Agra. . .sadly no grps for so low. . . but i still tryed as much as possible . . .kill solos (svg makes some huge dps sometimes if lucky). . . or most of the time to add. . .as i played like that 4h a day, pure solo, then i started to get few grps. . .i dont care about dieing...i do it for fun, most ppl give up so easly, im not. . .sometimes ppl whine on /b that i rp feed enemys. . .but as long as i kow that i can kill few i wount give up. . .for now i am allrdy L49 and considering some fast solo PvE to reach L50 when server is online again.

My advice . . . just keep trying to get any kills there is. . . even if u get roll overed by a FG . . . dont quit KEEP TRYING ! if all could think like me, there would be GREAT increase on NUMBERS on AGRAMON ! And when the numbers increase there would be a killable thing for every1 !

Best Regards,
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this

if everyone who had a char level 49/50 (or atleast 45) came to agra, then it would be more fun

I dont care if we lose, all i care is that we can play some daoc. This can only happen if theres people in agra.

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Postby Elleri » Jan 25, 2009 14:19

Cespx wrote:Hello,
we have a nice talk about todays RvR situation and as it seems the whole problem of Uthgard and Agramon is: why ppl dont want to leave BGs and join RvR in Agramon.

The goal of this topic is to hear (or read :) ) your ideas, what would make you play in Agramon. It's of course mostly dedicated to permanent BGs players but not only.

This part is really important so pls read it twice before posting anything.
IT IS NOT a topic about RvR situation, flames about zergs or anything else what wont help, so please prevent yourself from writing any useless comments. There are other forum sections made for flames etc.

Please behave and communicate with respect to your readers and to the Staff:)
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I'm playing in Albion, so i can only say, what is true for this realm.
You have 2 grups of players in Agramin, old, high-RR-Grps, arrogant and dont like new players, and new, post-BG-grps, with low RRs and farmed by High-RR-Grps. Old High-RR-Grps dont invite (mostly) new players, so new players dont learn (btw need a lot of time) how to play in gra. New grps are frustrated because they are farmed by high-rr-grps. It's like a closed circle, agramon seems to be a bg for high-rr-chars, and new players are not welcome.

What would me take playing in Agramon? More open and smart grps, not only high-rr-closed-grps that win to90% against new grps. It will be probably good to make a new bg, L45-50, RR1L1-4L9 ;)
because Agra is at this moment like BG for L50 RR5+ ;)
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Postby nixian » Jan 25, 2009 14:27

More solo people or people who doesnt add so much when its already an unfair fight (like adding to a 2v1 where your realm is the 2) ;)

but im already in agra so :p

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Postby vangonaj » Jan 25, 2009 14:36

Bg for rr1, rr2, rr3, rr4, rr5.... And zones for little groups rvr: sorry but these ideas are very stupid. With this ideas you only will destroy rvr. And yes if you are little rr is very hard play in Agrmon but no imposible, because hight rr is not ever good player. Now i see in agramon new stealthers who are soloing and they are doing very good job vs hight rr players.

Would be nice if CK has walls. I have one sb but i never can climb wals in agramon for kill some casters campers :twisted:

And yes old uthgard players should be more friendly and inv people in their groups.

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