I think many would even be happy if they got the potions in stacks so they dont fill bags.



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What would e.g. a ranger do when his s/c selfbuff becomes pointless because he could as well charge it?

But it is also offtopic, yes stealthers are the primary charge users but I also like to do it with my bm from time to time and head out to emain alone, where I am at a disadvantage vs skalds with sc Charge... so it is as already mentioned a realmwide balance issue, not only for stealthers!

However,most of my charges and pots are used pointlessly anyways, because either I get killed by fgs or by severeal stealthers at once or if I indeed found a solo inc i get added by fellow realmmates most of the time so the charges very seldom do make a difference
Sometimes they help killing one enemy in a 1vs2 unbuffed situation though, which is very satisfying then, a stronger sc buff wouldnt hurt there
Not complaining about these scenarios it is everyones right to zerg down a solo and add fights, but it really happens often

Exercia Devoras wrote:You all act like the infiltrator is unplayable with out the charges or stands no chance at all.

And you act as if your world would fall apart if you'ld have to fight Albs and Hibs on equal footing

Turano wrote:

Exercia Devoras wrote:You all act like the infiltrator is unplayable with out the charges or stands no chance at all.

And you act as if your world would fall apart if you'ld have to fight Albs and Hibs on equal footing

My claim is: it is equal just because of the charge difference. It equals the balanceissues that are classwise. Just my opinion. Trust me when i say: some of our highest RR SB's have rlyx hard times against some of the good rr2-3 infis, because they know about their strength and how to make play them out correctly. Ad a equal charge on it and you have almost untouchable kings of stealth.

Charge buffs vs potion buffs are like comparing a moped with a 125ccm. I like solution with giving it to all realms and change str/con to ws/con and best of all as a quest. Add a dex/qui in there as well.


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yeah all fine but gladly, neither buffpots nor itemchanges are considered here. The whole discussion is pointless.

Its not all fine when mid can bring a gun to a knife fight


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Usain Bolt can run 100meter while i sit in a Dragonfangstun. Need more examples for your so called Knife?

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Exercia Devoras wrote:Usain Bolt can run 100meter while i sit in a Dragonfangstun. Need more examples for your so called Knife?

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I never knew mr. Bolt ran the 100m below 9s.

I give up on you guys ^^
Have fun arguing for charges.

Just in case (between proskill books & usain bolt records .... ) a FACT quote :

Kha wrote:Fact1 : Uthgard was intended to be 1.65/SI balance wich give the possibility to stealthers from the 3realms to use both charges easily.

Fact2 : The staff will take all the time they need to prepare SI before update (and they are right to do so).

Fact3 : If we are still talking about months for SI, it could be smart to think about a solution to stay as closed as what people signed for : 1.65 PLUS SI balance. Wich means easy charges for the 3 realms !

Fact3 Bis [Wild idea] : (Temporary quest to give charges ? The token/jewel would last 7days have 8charges, could be recharged by NPCs for the same cost than mid ones (before it fades and you need to redo the quest...) until SI pop and quest disappear, with the token few days later)

Cheers !

Kha wrote:I give up on you guys ^^
Have fun arguing for charges.

Just in case (between proskill books & usain bolt records .... ) a FACT quote :

Kha wrote:Fact1 : Uthgard was intended to be 1.65/SI balance wich give the possibility to stealthers from the 3realms to use both charges easily.

Fact2 : The staff will take all the time they need to prepare SI before update (and they are right to do so).

Fact3 : If we are still talking about months for SI, it could be smart to think about a solution to stay as closed as what people signed for : 1.65 PLUS SI balance. Wich means easy charges for the 3 realms !

Fact3 Bis [Wild idea] : (Temporary quest to give charges ? The token/jewel would last 7days have 8charges, could be recharged by NPCs for the same cost than mid ones (before it fades and you need to redo the quest...) until SI pop and quest disappear, with the token few days later)

Cheers !

I heard that alb will not have str/con charge in 1.65, with or without SI

People have gotten the delusion of getting both charges on alb. My original question was whether str/con OR dex/quick would be considered. By that I mean 1 of them and only 1 to have easier access to. The other would not be available to get. If we got both it would tip us well above the SB's because of the str/con debuff. By just getting 1 it would open more space in bags for more buff pots to stay in the field longer for those of us who try to avoid the zerg in Emain and still have a competitive edge. I have fought non-stealthing mids who seem to run the charge buffs, I will be fully pot buffed with haste and AF charges and get wrecked still because of the difference in stat points.

2 biggest issues with charges.
1. Huge stat boost over people who only use pots.
2. Length of time to stay buffed. You need 10 pots to equal 1 item with a charge.

No one said that alb d/q charge, if ever you get it, is only 5 (drake) or 6(Evern) charges. Holy ****** that's annoying, one of the rarest drop of your realm and it's not even 10 charges

hib d/q is 5 charges too, so I can see your point

Grenouille wrote:No one said that alb d/q charge, if ever you get it, is only 5 (drake) or 6(Evern) charges. Holy ****** that's annoying, one of the rarest drop of your realm and it's not even 10 charges

Give it me then