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Postby Blue » Apr 24, 2007 21:04

You have one opinion between lots of other opinions of other people. Just because a rule doesnt fits you right now you cant conclude that a particular decision will be bad for all.

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Postby Elwin » Apr 24, 2007 22:30

well after deeper thoughts deleting /xp off doesnt change anything at all , ppl will just suicide and lose exp to stay in bg ..
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Postby Sethor » Apr 24, 2007 22:45

If they get a free levelup when reaching 2L0 suicide won't help them ;)
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Postby Luv » Apr 24, 2007 22:57

we were talking about the /rp off command, /xp off is actually good since it eliminates the need to suicide, so it replaces something that's already there.

in any case, there will always be players in favor and players against certain ideas, suggestions and changes. the community has the right to make suggestions, it's up to the staff to consider those suggestions and if needed/wanted make the necessary changes.

on live server i had a low bg char which i played a lot, great equipment, good build, but live servers had a much lower maximum rr on those bg's, once my char reached a too high lvl or rr i just muled my stuff and remade it.

if you really want to play in braemar, you'll find a way around it, but making it as easy as it is now draws far too much attention to braemar than needed. i know there are some players who are active in emain and have a braemar char on the side for fun, but for starters you could just move on to wilton instead, there are dozens of reasons why someone would want to go to braemar, easier targets, be with new friends, develop new tactics, simply liking the layout of the bg more than the emain map,...
all these things just add up...

on a sidenote, the best way to learn rvr is to simply do it, get to know the players, classes, enemies, etc. some guilds 'train' their newcomers in bgs... by making guildgroups, passing on their own tactics, step by step breakdown of how to fight...
really, just let them find out for themselves

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Pretty obvious dont you think?

ps: correct me if i'm wrong, but i seem to remember uthgard implementing stuff up to 1.80, if so, the /xp off command and the /rp off command are 1.81 (actually 1.85, they were introduced in 1.81 as /xpoff and /rpoff)
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Postby AsNied » Apr 24, 2007 23:00

I have emain char, Thidranki char, Wilton char and Braemar char ... so i should delete my all other non-emain? One emain char is enough for me. I no need a second.

Xp off help to have bg chars and keep exp bonus for other people leveling in our realm.

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Postby draco » Apr 24, 2007 23:21

Thats right!

And what if you don't have the time to bring a char up to 50 but want to play to have F U N (thats the thing people normally want if they play)

Why do you want them to spend a lot of time for sth if they can have it much easier and without spending so much time?

But thats again this mentality :
I've brought a char to 50,
I've equiped him with the best template ever,
I've brought him up to rr5

So why aren't there enough noobs to bash?! :twisted:


And sth that some people here maybe forgot:

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Postby Luv » Apr 24, 2007 23:40

I have emain char, Thidranki char, Wilton char and Braemar char ... so i should delete my all other non-emain? One emain char is enough for me. I no need a second.

Xp off help to have bg chars and keep exp bonus for other people leveling in our realm.

read => think => post...
i hope for you sake that was sarcasm...

also, why does everyone seem to think it's up to them to secure the bg's? so much faith in your fellow realmmates? sure, helping out is nice, but how many times can you 'help out' in braemar when the limit is rr2? are you all superheroes who fight off entire zergs of enemies on their own and reach rr2 in one afternoon? you log in and see the enemy has a bg, you will not rest untill it is yours again, round up your lvl 50 guildmates to log their little twinkies, battle for hours to regain braemar supremacy, together with your twinky guildmates you fight off any attempts made by enless groups of enemies to make sure they do not get hold of the keep and it's bonus. when the enemy finaly gives up you log out weary of battle, knowing those 3 or 4 lvl 10 chars will be pleased they have they added xp bonus... if they even care in the first place.

if you really think that removing the ability to stay in a bg untill f***ing judgementday means you're not allowed to play bg's anymore... then be my guest and delete those chars...

i'm really sick of everyone taking everything so f***ing personal in here... ofcourse i'm out to get only you, it's my dream, my reason for living, i dont care about all the other guys, its you i want to ruin and noone else.

i can understand why sethor does what he does, it's just so f***ing easy to ****** you guys off, one suggestion and you think we're out to get you... one little comment and half the community is in uproar... it's as if everyone here is f***ing paranoid and tbh, it's f***ing fun to watch you all as you go in a near-panic mode to ward off any change.

nah, even a bunny can bite...

ps: draco, if you really need the /rp off command, you got time enough to lvl through... and yeah, why spend time to lvl a char to lvl 50 when you can have just as much fun at lvl 30 or maybe even more? maybe we should just ask the gms to remove all 30+ content from the game?
yes it's just a game, but the game you're describing here resembles Counterstrike more than it resembles DAoC...

But that's again this mentality :
I've brought a char to 30,
I've equiped it with the best template ever using lvl 51 stuff,
I've brought him up to rr2

Let's bash some noobs!! :twisted:

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Postby panachier » Apr 25, 2007 02:37

so everybody has his opinion... his way to have fun.

why should everybody play daoc has You want it to be?

if smbdy enjoy PvE will you blame him and force him to be bind in rvr zone and can't go back to PvE area till he didnt kill at least 5 enemies?it could be a way to bring people in emain... isn't it a nice idea?

i think when you play a game it's to have fun. if you have fun in grey killing oki. if you have fun in zerging oki. but if you want to have fun in braemar you can't.... why?

i agree staff is God like but God do the best for the human... dictator act for his people till the things that people want are oki with personnal vision.

sure we'll still play on uthgard if you force us to level. sure we ll still play on uthgard if when you loggin you have to type " i enjoy playing on uthgard it's the best server that exist on the world" and /worship 3 times at the picture of the staff members...

but it's not cause it's your idea of the game that it must be done....if you put a picture of the staff in game, maybe some people will worship. sure we tell uthgard is a nice server and ask people to join us. sure we don't play all in braemar. but please let players free and everybody will be happy
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Postby salbei » Apr 25, 2007 02:53

they gank you out of emain - they gank you out of thid - they gank you out of wilton - braemar is where the big boys play now :lol:

who is going to miss braemar only players anyway ?

neirid potion material price :18g 35s

neirid potion bought from a crafter :25g tops

being total clueless about daoc game mechanics and unable to organize a neirid potion : priceless


whats next ? weapon proccs in braemar are overpowered cause i can´t farm 20g for it ? rofl

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Postby youija » Apr 25, 2007 03:06

hey :D

20g? for a weapon proc? I sold 2 recently lvl 30 for 16g.. :P
Yeah.. Im cheap... :oops:

I think u made a good point Salbei... Whats next? Too mutch Chlorine in water and hurts ur eyes?

I think we all agree that these days is easy enuff to get Water pots.
So close topic already and leave Braemar alone.
Dont start to srew the game like live did.

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Postby Pirith » Apr 25, 2007 09:42

Steroids ? Someone use Steroids ? What do the anti-doping staff ?
By the way it's Greater Nereid Potion.

For the rest i think this thread lead to nothing and pretty useless.
Both potions and /xp (off/on) are live feature pre 1.80. And since Uthgard tend to be close to live why removing it.

As usual some ppl complain for little problem while some game mechanic are still messed up in DOL and create some way more strong unbalance than what can happen in Braemar.

Pirith.

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Postby Luv » Apr 25, 2007 10:05

there's no f***ing way to talk to you guys, the least hint of change and you're defending yourself as if the world is coming to an end, you glorify your actions as if you alone hold your realm together, you cry tirany and dictatorship when others refuse to abide to your vision on things.

If you're a noob, stay in braemar?!?!

have fun in braemar, i dont give a flying f*** anymore

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Postby Johnnie » Apr 25, 2007 10:22

imho everyone should play how and where he wants. daoc give the possibility to stay in braemar and the other bg's if somebody want. every bg has its own challenge i guess, so don't judge player who wants to stay with one or more chars in lower rvr... if u don't like that u don't have the right to flame on the player who like low rvr. everyone has his own gusto, so let they play if they want to play... where's the problem, babe?

to stay with a char in braemar doesn't mean that he/she is a noob... maybe just in your eyes... but this is just flaming cuz u can't understand why someone stay there. become adult and accept other ppls opinions.
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Postby Luv » Apr 25, 2007 10:49

i do understand why someone would want to play in bg's, i also understand that a lot of players want to play in bg's because they just follow the others and that a lot of new players stick to bg's because they think there's little or no rvr past it since so much players stick to bg's. i'm talking about taking away the option to lock the door and everyone here acts as if they're going to loose the room... i know there a several players who have a lot of lvl 50 chars and they are active in emain as much as possible, but no matter what you change there will always be some who get a disadvantage they didn't really deserve. just as they shouldn't suffer from a removal of the /rp off command, others shouldn't suffer by letting it be. almost every opinion on the matter can be twisted both ways, as in most discussions.

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Postby Sethor » Apr 25, 2007 11:22

Excuse me Luv, I really try to understand you, but the only conclusion I come to
is that you have absolutely no idea about this game and how it is meant to be
played by it's original creator. There is a reason why you can reach lvl50 and
why most of the game content is abutted to lvl50 characters.

-> DAoC has never been meant to be a lvl30 "I-stay-forever-in-battlegrounds"
game. The main intention and so called end-game may be found at lvl50
and the related RvR zone.

-> Some of you run around like mad gone chicken screaming around in you
realm that there is no life after Braemar except of the slaughter in form of
badass specialgroups in emain. This leads into players believing you and
staying in Braemar.

Sometimes I can only shake my head and wonder how people playing this
game for a longer time still haven't gotten a clue :roll:
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