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Orihiime
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Postby Orihiime » Mar 01, 2013 21:08

RonELuvv wrote:They were afraid to lose the community high RR skald that everyone had access to.... :wall:

i dont have Comet access, and i was still spamming gms for hours for try to change anything on their decision before we know they will restore it. Dont be jealous ppl care more about someone other than you.
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Postby Orihiime » Mar 01, 2013 21:09

Mee wrote:
Orihiime wrote:Rules are made for have some exceptions.
Should Rambo get his infiltrator back if he decided he wanted to come back, and 50 people spammed for his return? Yes, he made a severe error in judgement, but so did whoever shared their account information. End result for Rambo= his account was deleted. End result for Comet = his acccount was deleted.

Ramboz deleted by himself, Comet not, stop being stupid and jealous, this become pathetic, really
2012:<@[Uth]Abydos> If we don't have SI by the end of the year, Im fairly certain I wont be a GM anymore :-p

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Postby Snigel » Mar 01, 2013 21:27

Can we please get barrels back now? 8)
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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 01, 2013 21:32

Jealous? I'm not jealous of anything here. I have provided ample reasons why the GM's in the past, according to the rules, have not helped a player recover anything when it was known they gave out their account info. This is not jealousy, this is hypocrisy.

As far as you not having access to Comet, I really dont care if you had it or not. The fact is that multiple people did have access and it would be in their best interst to keep access to a RR11+ skald. So because you didnt have access then my statement is completely false? Wrong, its just false for you, not false for all.

Now, when you get your nose out from under Comets buttcheeks and come up for air maybe you will understand that this is not about Comet. This is about consistancy in enforcing the rules Ori. If this exact same thing happened to me I have absolutely zero doubt that I would have been told that the GM's would do nothing because it was my fault for giving out account information. That is what I have issue with. You cant say we have rules for some and different rules for others. If you do this for Comet than do it for all.

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Postby Oswaldo » Mar 01, 2013 21:37

RonELuvv wrote:Jealous? I'm not jealous of anything here. I have provided ample reasons why the GM's in the past, according to the rules, have not helped a player recover anything when it was known they gave out their account info. This is not jealousy, this is hypocrisy.

As far as you not having access to Comet, I really dont care if you had it or not. The fact is that multiple people did have access and it would be in their best interst to keep access to a RR11+ skald. So because you didnt have access then my statement is completely false? Wrong, its just false for you, not false for all.

Now, when you get your nose out from under Comets buttcheeks and come up for air maybe you will understand that this is not about Comet. This is about consistancy in enforcing the rules Ori. If this exact same thing happened to me I have absolutely zero doubt that I would have been told that the GM's would do nothing because it was my fault for giving out account information. That is what I have issue with. You cant say we have rules for some and different rules for others. If you do this for Comet than do it for all.


Depends on what gm you ask, i believe comet asked some gms before blue and they just said no
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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 01, 2013 21:40

Oswaldo wrote:
Depends on what gm you ask, i believe comet asked some gms before blue and they just said no


Making an allready murky situation even that much more murky.... oO

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Postby Mee » Mar 01, 2013 21:50

Orihiime wrote:
Mee wrote:
Orihiime wrote:Rules are made for have some exceptions.
Should Rambo get his infiltrator back if he decided he wanted to come back, and 50 people spammed for his return? Yes, he made a severe error in judgement, but so did whoever shared their account information. End result for Rambo= his account was deleted. End result for Comet = his acccount was deleted.

Ramboz deleted by himself, Comet not, stop being stupid and jealous, this become pathetic, really


I don't see how this is stupid or jealous Ori. Please explain?

Fact = They both made stupid mistakes
Fact = Both toons were deleted

If either of these statements is false, please call me on it

This is hypothetical of course because as far as i know Ramboz is not around, nor has he asked for his account to be restored. I am just trying to prove a point. You do it on every hardline rule that they try to enforce.


Jealousy = If i made the mistake of giving someone my account info and they deleted my account and robbed it, and i asked to get my account was restored... .and if i was told no.... THEN i might be jealous

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Postby Orihiime » Mar 01, 2013 21:59

And i will answer you clearly. If it was you, i dont think you would have your char back, yeah, being called Comet helped a lot for sure because all the community spammed for it ( and not the one who had access, stop believe this its stupid ) i dont know a lot of rr11 like him that is respected by everyone after 6 years of playing here and if this had happen to someone like Galandriel, i guess you wont have see everyone trying do something for they restore his char ( sorry for the exemple ^^ ). We are in a community, he have very good reputation and behavior since more than 6 years, what you expected ? even gms are human and care about things like this, they not robot and have understand that it was the right thing to restore the char. And i agree also that Comet is idiot to trust ppl like this and share his account to someone that he dont know really good, and i hope what happened will prevent him to do the same misstake.
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Postby Mee » Mar 01, 2013 22:07

What if it was you? :D

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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 01, 2013 22:09

Orihiime wrote:And i will answer you clearly. If it was you, i dont think you would have your char back, yeah, being called Comet helped a lot for sure because all the community spammed for it ( and not the one who had access, stop believe this its stupid ) i dont know a lot of rr11 like him that is respected by everyone after 6 years of playing here and if this had happen to someone like Galandriel, i guess you wont have see everyone trying do something for they restore his char ( sorry for the exemple ^^ ).


And that is where I have a problem. Who you are should not play a factor. I agree with you Ori, I've always got along great with Comet and he is a great player and myself and Mee are both happy he was able to get his toon back. Who he is shouldn't play a factor in that decision though. Alot of people liked Wisensturn, but he was banned for breaking the rules. It was a different rule (selling stuff for RL money), but still he was breaking the rules and got banned. All I'm saying is in the future when similiar situations arise I hope the GM's stay consistant in returning toons without armor/plats etc like they did Comet.

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Postby Blue » Mar 01, 2013 22:10

Oswaldo wrote:Depends on what gm you ask, i believe comet asked some gms before blue and they just said no

Thats a fact.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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Postby Abydos » Mar 01, 2013 22:16

The Rules wrote:§5.2 Restoration of lost characters, items and other data
There is no claim on the restoration of lost characters, items and other data. The decision whether to restore data or not lies in the sole discretion of the staff. Deliberately and accidently deleted characters will not be restored. There is no claim on an account recovery if the account was stolen because of insecure accountnames and/or passwords.

§2.3 Staff authority
The authority of the Uthgard staff is unimpeachable in all community parts. Staff decisions are to be followed and not to be discussed. Violations may result in punishments. In serious cases they may even result in a permanent ban.



Before anyone gets any bright ideas about "spamming" staff about this or any other topic, keep in mind that our patience is limited. If YOU are not the person affected, don't get involved. YOU don't get an opinion on the subject.

Likewise, don't complain that one situation is fair and another isn't - each situation is evaluated by staff, who decides.

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