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Postby Edymus » Jun 18, 2012 15:15

Baman plays RvR.. not more

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Postby Raggnar » Jun 18, 2012 15:28

Orihiime wrote:
Raggnar wrote:
Orihiime wrote:Yes, Baman did his rr10L+ by killing greys and zerging in emain with 3 fgs =) stop crying about baman, there is way worst than him :)


Minneapolis :)?

dg, death row ? wow baman kill grey solo, he go emain solo or DUO with topsie, wow what a bad guy. if u dont want to be grey killed in df, ask to your 50 to go hunt him ? or just DONT go df ?


It was a joke btw :). Also, you can be the best player in the world but be a gray killer at the same time, one does not exclude the other. Nobody commented on his skill, just on pointless gray killing. Too hot outside for discussions with wackos, over and out.
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Postby newguy » Jun 18, 2012 16:10

typical behavior of this Uthgard community. Thats all you people do. Something happens I dont like... I QUIT. thats all I see out of you people. These type of characteristics carry into real life as well, prolly quit everything you do. the famous words, "nobody likes a quitter". goodbye.

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Postby borog » Jun 18, 2012 16:13

i haven't seen anything worth quitting over yet, but then im not a min/maxer like most here.

I'm more than happy to adapt to the new style and try to best that also.

quitting is just a failure to adapt.

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Postby Zarkor » Jun 18, 2012 16:37

borog wrote:quitting is just a failure to adapt.

Roflmao. Nope.

It's realising when things start to become a waste of time.
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Postby Blue » Jun 18, 2012 16:43

Zarkor wrote:
borog wrote:quitting is just a failure to adapt.

Roflmao. Nope.

It's realising when things start to become a waste of time.

So why are you still here? Trolling or wasting time?
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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Postby borog » Jun 18, 2012 18:10

Zarkor wrote:
borog wrote:quitting is just a failure to adapt.

Roflmao. Nope.

It's realising when things start to become a waste of time.


if you no longer enjoy playing on Uthgard then just stop playing, its your choice and you are free to make it.

Its also my choice to stay and continue to play on this excellent server because all of the things that have been done, and they all affect my characters, are not going to stop me enjoying it.

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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 18, 2012 20:11

Blue wrote:
Zarkor wrote:
borog wrote:quitting is just a failure to adapt.

Roflmao. Nope.

It's realising when things start to become a waste of time.

So why are you still here? Trolling or wasting time?


maybe because he'd really like to play daoc but is really frustrated about what you're doing to the server.
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Postby Caemma » Jun 18, 2012 20:39

Nef Melody wrote:
Blue wrote:So why are you still here? Trolling or wasting time?


maybe because he'd really like to play daoc but is really frustrated about what you're doing to the server.

That's why this server is still alive.

Maybe sometimes would be nice thinking about who play here and spend time (lot of time esepcially for someone ^^) of their life trying to enjoy this game in this server, and make changes like these (apparently without mind) and in these period (summer/new games inc) is a very bad way to make things.

This game is based on community, dont break it.
I dont wanna say that cummunity have to comand what is right and what is not, but hey after lot of years you should be able to use common sense
There was a time when Uthgard 1.0 existed and maaaany toons and arrpees arose... but now:
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Postby zafiter » Jun 18, 2012 20:43

I'm really really sad about my friends decide to delete, I also think that delete is a too much extreme decision, also because infi can be played with different spec (merc split spec) , that dont count so much on pa and work also good enough.
Usually I dont comment gm's changes, also due to the most of its are good... i've to say it, but this time im feeling confused and disappointed.

I really dont get the sense : how remove barrels/bottles can be good for the community ?... is not something made against only solos/stealther because also fg's use barrels...

The fact is that in rvr is NOT changed anything cause u can still fullbuff yourself filling ur inventary of elixir, the problems born when u've to prepare yourself for rvr, that now will take 100%or more longer, and 100% more expensive if u dont craft elixir by yourself, (because a seller of elixir for earn money have to count also the time spended to made it, that now is increased).
Now we can divide players in 2 main categories:
-"hostel" player: i dont care how much time will take to prepare myself, 1 second of glory (inc winned) count more then 1 hour crafting / transfer elixir to house to bank to inventary.
("hostel" player for me is a metaphor of a very actvive player, not that hostel think this for real)

-"Dioz" player: ( in greek dioz = lazy) :D that prefer log off/stop play istead of do all the mess that now they shoud do.
obviusly many lazy player will leave or reduce their time on uthgard.

I've readed that GMs had to choised beetwen 1)limit number of buff usable and 2)remove barrrel.
1) this first choise is discutible due to cause advantage for the selfbuff class like,thane,champion,friar,warden and ofc RANGERS, so in few words if u've one "selfbuff class user" u will say GOOD, and if ur not u will say "BAD"!!! , but first choise still have sense in the way that GMs forbitten buffbot(CUSTOM) and so they wish a server without or with few potions buff…
The only problem of first choise is that the can be easly attacked by the faction “we think is BAD” that say: this is not livelike! This is discrimination!... and this is sadly true so HOW can GMs reaply in this case? I DUNNO but I wish know it :D
2)remove barrel: this choise is totally without sense… BUT… is LIVELIKE… so YOU player can’t tell me nothing.
(maybe for this gm’s choised the 2° option?)

But now i wish to talk about this ”MAGIC WORD” that GMs use all the time that nerf something and they know that players will not like it.
(This is how I see GMs changes in my mind: GOOD(rp bonus)->Custom - NERF/EVIL-> Livelike)

Personally I think that the custom “things” of uthgard is one of the factors of his success, we’ve to say that 70% of player do PVE (is a fact), so when they released tajendi 2, there was a boom of player online since we arrived to a stabil numer, around 900 at prime time, after some months of euphoria we returned to be about 700 player, then gms announced that tajendi will not stay forever, then diablo3(and in this case in not GMs guilty XD), then remove barrels… now we’re about 450+ player at prime time(Monday day and hour of dragon raid for albion 500player online at 20:00)… so the numbers don’t LIE, the server is losing players, and we all know that on a server more players leave and more pull others players to leave.
GMs reasons of anything: our mission is a livelike 1.69 server.

Really seems they don’t care if this will make worse the gameplay/fun for players... AND now come my question to GMs:
For you GM’s is more importart the community / fun of the server OR if the server is totally “LIVELIKE”?
And if u make a server totally LIVELIKE you’ll win a Nobel Prize?

Sorry if my post is too long but I cant be short, that’s why I never post on forum :P

Ps: personally I will not suffer so much about changes cause for play kite-minstrel need really few buffs (2 or 3 are enough), but I tried to talk for the common players.

I still hope that Old Alchemist will not find any others business, due to the economics crisis, and will back to the capital.

BB ramboz and dioz ç_ç i'll miss you!

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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 18, 2012 20:45

I enjoyed the game and the server for a long time, and some changes/fixes and stuff were really nice, and i also appreciate all the work behind this, the thing is just implementing bullshit (the pa dmg correction was really fine i'm talking about hasteners in pve zones and barrels etc.) just because it is livelike, while this being a custom server anyway. I really grief about that
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Postby BobtheSkelly » Jun 19, 2012 04:38

Everyone is crying about the fact that you don't have barrels to get buffs. I hardly ever run buffed, mostly because I don't want to take the effort to get fully buffed and it takes away from the game to me. My guess is at least some more people are going to come out unbuffed to give it a shot. If you are hard core find a way to buff up. If its not worth it to you run unbuffed. Either way it's not impossible to play now that you don't have buffs.
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Postby Beanie » Jun 19, 2012 10:40

I told you guys if assassins had their PA fixed, most of them would disappear overnight because they wouldn't be able to handle playing a true classic assassin, especially the rr7+ assassins who thought they were doing something right and were cool. They're still OP because they have viper and vanish options they shouldn't have and they still can't handle it or adapt.

This shouldn't surprise anyone.

Gumby being the one exception I've seen so far.

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Postby zafiter » Jun 19, 2012 11:43

My guess is at least some more people are going to come out unbuffed to give it a shot. .

ppl that run unbuff are the part of lazy ppl, they will make 1 run unbuff -> will be easly killed by a 4l ranger fullbuff and then will think: i've 0% change to win an inc in this condition, so or i run buff or i log off... lazy=log off. (or start add everyone... like player that have 0% change to win also fullbuff like all hunters exept my friend madina)

Btw this change has been done cause gms payed action of the requestion of all those players(rangers in particular) that want potion buff off or limited, but they choosed a way for make everyone complain (par condicio), because i will never belive that one player asked to remove only barrels/bottle only for the fun to fill all the times his inventary of elixirs...

With this i wanna say that is not true that gms dont pay attention to the community but few times they can make a "fake step" like this one.

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Postby Zarkor » Jun 19, 2012 11:58

Nef Melody wrote:
Blue wrote:So why are you still here? Trolling or wasting time?


maybe because he'd really like to play daoc but is really frustrated about what you're doing to the server.

Nothing comes close to the glory days of Classic DAoC.

Or should I say, a Classic-like DAoC server with a good population.


Uthgard is probably the only candidate for such a success, but you guys specificly choose it to be a literal Classic server, which inevitably puts off people who actually like to enjoy their time spent on playing a game, rather than getting frustrated about it. This only makes the situation worse and worse, since the fewer players, the less the frustration becomes worth the effort, eventually leaving the server to end up with a handful of dedicated players who couldn't care less about server activity since all they really do still is PvE or camp AMG.

You claim you want to be Classic because that's the best time DAoC had, but at the same time you completely ignore one of the biggest reasons why that time was so great. The lively and booming population. An MMO gets defined by population. Especially a PvP based MMO. You act like if you recreate the exact setting would magicly attract enough players to also recreate the same population we had back then, but you don't realise that the only reason players back then accepted the crappy parts was because the game was new, crowded and exciting. All of these things which Uthgard is not.
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