Force wrote:It would be a lot less painful on hybrids if the entire frontier was populated. But if roaming 8 man is the main theme, no det is a non starter for a tank.

I am actually more concerned about supporters getting Mastery of Blocking, without defense penetration working. Basically adds another 9% (mob3) to the ungodly high block rate for the high RR supporters if they want it.

LOL I don't think that "if the world was a better place we woulden't have to grp" is a very constructive argument in this particular discussion.

Braxis wrote:

Force wrote:LOL I don't think that "if the world was a better place we woulden't have to grp" is a very constructive argument in this particular discussion.

Quote where I said hybrids wouldn't need to group. The frontier being populated would mean there would be groups aside from roaming 8 mans with 1 CC, 2 spread healers, endurance, speed, and 3 DET tanks, and hybrids would actually be able to get groups.

Takeing out the prerequisites for realm ablities for old ra system could go along way with helping people to get the essential ra's.

NF cost/benefit ratio is better then the OF one too.

Mastery of focus will also be missed imo.

Braxis wrote:Mastery of focus will also be missed imo.

Deeply missed !

I have a champion. I love him, as did back in 2002 when I start playing with in Excali.
However I always faced with the racism this class brought to me, until the NF RAs and TOA.

Dropping is back it will be again a absolute character, only worth to get on PvE.

The whole problem isn't the Det or 30 min timer purge. Is Mythic's epic fail idea about the CC spells.
They can't be resisted, there are no resist RA lines, and only can be countered by Det, purge and if your bard CC first.
No active measures to protect from the CC spells and they just make the game more or less broken.

How many times we found ourselves mezzed, then rooted, then with another crap just looking around waiting to die?
Hell, is bad as it is now, with det and 15 min timer purge. Get it back to OF RAs will just make it again 'the first to hit mezz button wins the battle'.

Why do you believe are so many stealth classes out there? At least they can have some fun away from the remaining broken system.


Look we have an opportunity here, to make DAOC better not as broken as it was. Maybe we should start discussing that?

Fediuld wrote:
The whole problem isn't the Det or 30 min timer purge. Is Mythic's epic fail idea about the CC spells.
They can't be resisted

Wrong - sure you can resist a mezz

Fediuld wrote:there are no resist RA lines, and only can be countered by Det, purge and if your bard CC first.

Wrong, just demezz

Fediuld wrote:How many times we found ourselves mezzed, then rooted, then with another crap just looking around waiting to die?
Hell, is bad as it is now, with det and 15 min timer purge. Get it back to OF RAs will just make it again 'the first to hit mezz button wins the battle'.

I dont know how your grp setup looks like if you ever make a step in a RvR zone. Purge is on a 5min timer if you want, you have sos, you have tons of counters. With OF the grp with the better movement gonna win - first mezz = smarter driver.

Fediuld wrote:Get it back to OF RAs will just make it again 'the first to hit mezz button wins the battle'.

Don´t run around sticked?

Actually you just need to play better with OF RAs. I can't wait to see all those charge offtanks getting raped instantly because they keep playing like they do now

Heho,

Im not sure if it will be a good or a bad change. My mainproblem will be NS maybe.
Some player told me that at the time when OF RAs were activ on live server, not many ppl used it. Now the playstyle have changed, that brings many differents between old live server and Uthgard with OF RAs. As example NS is very important in RvR now with 5min or 15 min purge. How will it be with 30 min purge? I don't want to spread aall the fight long ^^.

Greetz Luydor

will be great, since I ve NS, hahaha. Rest of u, just /afk for 2min hf !

Players will regenerate their Purge while standing in a safe-spot to wait until purge is up again.

So you have to wait 30 minutes bevor do rvr again. Just doin something else in this 30 minutes...but dont do rvr without purge ready.

OF and the old ras are a very very bad idea. Many players will leave uthgard again (we already lost a lot of players because of the changes bevor OF...just remember the changes at agramon and the bointypoints-downgrade....)

Sometimes i think: Staff will never learn OR they want less players on uthgard...

Yol wrote:Players will regenerate their Purge while standing in a safe-spot to wait until purge is up again.

So you have to wait 30 minutes bevor do rvr again. Just doin something else in this 30 minutes...but dont do rvr without purge ready.

OF and the old ras are a very very bad idea. Many players will leave uthgard again (we already lost a lot of players because of the changes bevor OF...just remember the changes at agramon and the bointypoints-downgrade....)

Sometimes i think: Staff will never learn OR they want less players on uthgard...

And another "feedback" post to something that isn't even live on Uthgard yet.

Maybe players like you have to wait for 30 minutes to be able to do RvR again. I personally do welcome the fact that not everything will be purged instantly. Yesterday a rr 11 healer was leading the 3fg sticked midgard zerg. he got mezzed on inc and purged + moced instantly. With OF ra you have at least a slighty chance to win against these numbers of players as it is now it's just: Nice Zerg with speed 6 inc maybe take one or two with and do /rel.

Ormilig wrote:Actually you just need to play better with OF RAs. I can't wait to see all those charge offtanks getting raped instantly because they keep playing like they do now

True story.

Fediuld wrote:Get it back to OF RAs will just make it again 'the first to hit mezz button wins the battle'.

just don't get blank mezzed.... If you don't pan your camera while running don't whine about it.

Many of my chars will greatly benefit from old RA's, but still I think sticking with NF ra's will be the best choice here..

Old RA's with custom changes isnt a good idea, neither is NF ra's with custem changes..

Breeze wrote:Many of my chars will greatly benefit from old RA's, but still I think sticking with NF ra's will be the best choice here..

Old RA's with custom changes isnt a good idea, neither is NF ra's with custem changes..

Lol please enlighten us then.