Lol , u probly are fresh to daoc, ayuko is an old knowed daoc player, that dmg is given by :
400 dex, toa % dmg bonuses, 3 strength relics; he uses the double crit shot tecnique and most of targets sit down or not moving, letting him doing more dmg.

What's the double crit shot technique? Firing two crit shots in a row?

nixian wrote:And you are 100% sure the critshot was successful?

This is correct, there is a bug here on uthgard with critshoot, u get the shoot away, no text at all about doing a normal shoot bcs of movement etc but the damage is the same as a normal shoot, got this twice yesterday in df, sad i didnt take any ss to prove it.
Its not 90% as stated earlier but i say its like 10% of the shoots. Annoying as hell anyway, maybe caused by lagg but i still think u should get the failed critshoot msg.

jaaro wrote:it is posible on uth atm or in future with old ra's hit like that scout on this wideo pls tell me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f-U-rIX-CU

Not without buffbot and without ToA.

Eclipsed wrote:- I think, depending on what time period this was (patch), it maybe a result of not having range bonus restricted to a max of 500 units. Also being the scout bow has the farthist range. And also i have shot from that location on uthgard and you can get quiet far, but you will hit the 500 range bonus cap real fast, and which is what that scout isnt hitting and gaining more range from, possibly. I hope they take that cap out as they should. Being no range bonus items/ras in classic.

If my memory doesn't fail, the 500 range bonus cap was implemented with NF, so guess you're right
I would also agree on removing the cap here on Uth.

Today i was rly mad cause i made cs on sb only 580 ... normal shot 280, btw on ns i make nornal shot 470 so bow DMG is BUGED don't try tell me it working good cause it's not.
On warior i made 650+cs and on sb can't mae 800+ -.- and yes i choos right arrow...
My dex with d/q and dex buff +aug dex 3 = 298 and i'm briton.
Sara scout don't make rly big diference mayby 50+- dmg.

jaaro wrote:Today i was rly mad cause i made cs on sb only 580 ... normal shot 280, btw on ns i make nornal shot 470 so bow DMG is BUGED don't try tell me it working good cause it's not.
On warior i made 650+cs and on sb can't mae 800+ -.- and yes i choos right arrow...
My dex with d/q and dex buff +aug dex 3 = 298 and i'm briton.
Sara scout don't make rly big diference mayby 50+- dmg.

Maybe the SB used AF buff?
Maybe the Warrior had no SC?

And 298 dex is crappy compared to 380+ dex I'm used with my scout on ToA live. Even for pre ToA, this is quite low. Pre ToA my scout was buffed with a buffbot which had MoArc for capping buffs (was around 350 dex).

580 dmg is with crit quite fair for an server where no one runs with cap buff. This is 1/3 of the total HP of the SB with one shot. So dont complain.

1.Maybe the SB used AF buff?
2.Maybe the Warrior had no SC?

1. mayby but on full buffed sb i did 800+cs so i no get it
2. this warior had sc and was full buffed

298dex is sin't rly crap i did normaly 350+ shot but it's not enought to kill assassin.
580cs isn't fair how i can kill assassin in mele then ?! i need big dmg from bow and atm bow dmg is rly bad if i would do cs by 1k it would be fair then and normalshot 500+ so ppl will play archers and it will be rly nice but 580cs it's just shame...

580 dmg is 1/3 hp sb yes i igree with it but he use heal pot and healing himself for 200+ and he spam on me viper so what chances i have ?! he purge my slam ofc too

jaaro wrote:580cs isn't fair how i can kill assassin in mele then ?! i need big dmg from bow and atm bow dmg is rly bad if i would do cs by 1k it would be fair then and normalshot 500+ so ppl will play archers and it will be rly nice

My ranger has fully buffed with pots around ~1400+ hp, so I assume, any SB will do have around 1500-1600 HP with Pots and maybe maximum 1800 with charges. When you would do 1000 dmg with crit shot and 500 with normal shot, you would two or three hit any assassin or hunter or ranger, which doesn't have augumenting RAs like PD or toughness. This would be quite overpowered in my opinion.

I would suggest trying to kite assassins. Critshot, normalshot and run, restealth, Crit shot again. Hard but possible with MoS5, since you can easly track them.

580 dmg is 1/3 hp sb yes i igree with it but he use heal pot and healing himself for 200+ and he spam on me viper so what chances i have ?! he purge my slam ofc too

Here I have to agree. Healpots should be removed entirely or only used after beeing out of combat (which includes taking damage) for 10 secs.

Damage was with crap dragon bow?

kite don't work vs assassins they use endu barrel like me and also charge dot so i can't hide but if i hide they easy can see me
so i have still no chances and that overpowered dmg bow should be good for scouts cause they have rly small chaces to win any fight
and i using 5.5crafted bow or basald 5.7

On Live i made with OLD Bow-System like it is on Uthgard around 800dmg...up to 1000 (ok, that was lucky...dident happen every day)

Ok, i had more dex because of overstats and buffbot. But i could trippel-hit every caster and most of the assasines.

A bow-class-player wich need more than 3 shots to kill his target is going to loose every fight...

Scout and Hunter and Ranger Bow-dmg is to low...AND they dont get even bow-procs here.

But in fact: Everyone who plays a while on uthgard knows this...and could roll a better class than a bow-class.

A Norseman SB would have about 1650 HP with Pot and Str/Con charge, no RA modifiers.

But when it comes to damage on uthgard, you have to remember the variance of bow damage is like 40% from your min hit on a target. So on that 580 CS or 290 Normal shot, could possibly be like 406 Normal shot on the high end, with an average of 348 normal shot. But then again that CS could of been the average damage, making the min and max like. 242 Min, 339 Max.

So depending on where in the variance a shot is, its hard to say my damage is this. Also got to consider in your targets template and if they have a spec AF buff.

Bow damage on Uthgard is fine. High dex Rangers and Scouts critting leather and studded wearers for 700-900+ damage is OP for Uthgard's setting.

I two-shot unbuffed assassins and I have gimp bow damage compared to a hybrid spec Ranger, let alone a full sniper spec.

Mayby fine for you but not for me ...
Archer should have rly good bow dmg and don't need to shot 10-15 times on target, it should be like that: shot,shot and dead target and archer go hide,
On uthgard bow dmg is too low for me ;/
I have rly problem to kill enemy by a bow 280-340 is isn't enough... and ye 900crit shot is cool. In my opinion archers should kill fast enemy like it is in another games so it make more realistic.

I respecced this mornign to MoS 5 and 35+14 bow hybrid spec ... and its rocks as hell critshoting assassins from 700 loc range out from stealth. And I'm only RR4.

Sadly, this area ends with old RA. Then I'm going to spec 50 CD again altoughI realy would like to stay at bow. But no sense without MoS.