Lol at qq from all the albs at how their realm will suck in 8v8....

welcome to hib!!

Jezzmin wrote:

Tirax wrote:It will just cost 10-14 realmpoints to compensate the lack of poor class design.... Ah and the loose of blockpet. But Albion can do something every 30 mins. Yay OF is awesome....

u surely got it right that OF RAs will be implemented for all the 3 realms and not alb only?

And since when has mid/hib to spec points just for endurancemanagement?
And who is telling you to group a complete useless (on uthgard..) class just for thier 30min reuse abillity?.

Its sad enough, that the most effective group-build in Albion has to run around without 2nd demezz, speed5 or det-slambot.

Panchos wrote:Lol at qq from all the albs at how their realm will suck in 8v8....

welcome to hib!!

what a stupid, useless, 1 row-uthgard-stlye posting. Get rid of the ridicoulus internet slang and add something to the discussion or get lost.
Biased postings dont help here. Hib is already overpopulated just wait until OF and you will see nothing else.

Tirax wrote:Its sad enough, that the most effective group-build in Albion has to run around without 2nd demezz, speed5 or det-slambot.

cleric, cleric, sorc, theurg, cab, arms, merc, mins

has all of that

no friar resists and need to use end pots, tho

Jarysa wrote:

Tirax wrote:Its sad enough, that the most effective group-build in Albion has to run around without 2nd demezz, speed5 or det-slambot.

cleric, cleric, sorc, theurg, cab, arms, merc, mins

has all of that

no friar resists and need to use end pots, tho

i see one damagedealer here...., what is the spec of the cabby btw? Trispec? Without mof?

And endupots don't solve the problem, you still have to spec for longwind and tireless. All your casters clerics need thier timer for manapots.

Tirax wrote:

Jarysa wrote:

Tirax wrote:Its sad enough, that the most effective group-build in Albion has to run around without 2nd demezz, speed5 or det-slambot.

cleric, cleric, sorc, theurg, cab, arms, merc, mins

has all of that

no friar resists and need to use end pots, tho

i see one damagedealer here...., what is the spec of the cabby btw? Trispec? Without mof?

And endupots don't solve the problem, you still have to spec for longwind and tireless. All your casters clerics need thier timer for manapots.

Yup, dps is lacking.
No more triepec caba in OF, gonna have to drop debuff...
As things stand now 2nd sorc is better then mincer, at least those 29 min.
Ressist is a problem especially with hib debuff assist grps.
Dont think alb/mid is gonna win ns or any cc ever again with hib having 3+ pugres per combat every 30min...

As I said in Alb forum before,

I don't get you Albs, you have several nice & Unique classes why not use them all?

PALLADIN:
Not sure why you skip palla out, yes no det, but demezz cast ever heard of?
Only root could be annoying but even that is minor cause at that point the palla can still use his songs.

FRIAR:
Friar is indeed no dd or no healer but when Hibs will start with their major debuff/nuke assist the additional resists might be helpfull

MERC:
Not sure why you need them so badly, y they are nice DD but with pending Hib bomb groups in sight :s

And you got your answers in that topic.

arnius wrote:As I said in Alb forum before,

I don't get you Albs, you have several nice & Unique classes why not use them all?

PALLADIN:
Not sure why you skip palla out, yes no det, but demezz cast ever heard of?
Only root could be annoying but even that is minor cause at that point the palla can still use his songs.

FRIAR:
Friar is indeed no dd or no healer but when Hibs will start with their major debuff/nuke assist the additional resists might be helpfull

MERC:
Not sure why you need them so badly, y they are nice DD but with pending Hib bomb groups in sight :s

Yeah sounds like a real imba realm to me

well, i think hib caster grps will be strong, but not that imba strong.

No bof, just di 1 (if skilled at all), no PD, nerfed mend spec will make those casters explode to a hard push by a tank grp before they even can think the word kiting.
Of course that, like everything with old RA's, depends strong on who wins the mezz, even if that just means if hibs win or get ruptet 'cause they can't loose the mezz anyway.
The only RA that can save the caster for 30 sec is bard's melodies on a 30 min reuse timer.

For albs i think rare's setup (melee), with an I-Win SoS Button every 30 mins and good chances against hib caster grps even without SoS, will work very good with old RA's, best grp on stonehenge during old RA's (enrage) had KT setup. So everythink can still work.

best setup for me is cleric,cleric,sorc,theurg,cabalist,pala,merc,minstrel

its enough dps imo. you just need good rupt (wtb that on uthgard) and good positioning.

dinj wrote:best setup for me is cleric,cleric,sorc,theurg,cabalist,pala,merc,minstrel

its enough dps imo. you just need good rupt (wtb that on uthgard) and good positioning.

Really?

Doubt that sorc can take the time from cc and rupting to assist the cabby that debuffed the merc's target...

And doubt that a mincer can be as effective as a sorc in rupting.

Only one melee dps isn't enough imo...

As alb I'll probably stop playing with old RAs, not because I believe alb will suck, but because :
- playing sorc with no chance to counter NS is retarded and not fun
- playing cleric healing with nothing else than spread is retarded and not fun (sucky single heals on 1.69 and anyway nothing else I can do with NS)
- playing reaver standing 1 minute in root is retarded and not fun (has anyone noticed how long is shaman root without det and without friar resists ? )

Maybe I should just play my eld, spam the lolnearsight button standing out of range and look at half of the enemy group becoming close to useless ^^

I've been considering doing the same (rolling a eld).

Good thing I have a cabby tho. A lot of good it will do me with no MoF and crappy two spec...

I won't delete my reaver in case they give in and implement a class respec stone.

bawww wrote:And you got your answers in that topic.

The answer was that friar has no heal or dd & that his resist buffs are not important enough cause the palla can run them too.
When will he do this? at the same time you expect that palla to run end song?

Furthermore the entire discussion about the resist buffs not being that important because they do not effect cc (besides sham root) is somewhat odd, cause as far I'm concerned every dmg less taken is dmg less to heal.

=> more time to do something else (perhaps shear some buffs with your free cleric then?)

But hey do what you want!!

If albs will have no palla or friar in there groups I'll gladly make tons of mid caster groups with 2dark rm & a rc rm

Tirax wrote:

Jarysa wrote:

Tirax wrote:Its sad enough, that the most effective group-build in Albion has to run around without 2nd demezz, speed5 or det-slambot.

cleric, cleric, sorc, theurg, cab, arms, merc, mins

has all of that

no friar resists and need to use end pots, tho

i see one damagedealer here...., what is the spec of the cabby btw? Trispec? Without mof?

And endupots don't solve the problem, you still have to spec for longwind and tireless. All your casters clerics need thier timer for manapots.

I see at least 4 damage dealers there. 5 if the theurg is air.
Of course the cab is trispec. All you guys way overestimate mof.

arnius wrote:

bawww wrote:And you got your answers in that topic.

The answer was that friar has no heal or dd & that his resist buffs are not important enough cause the palla can run them too.
When will he do this? at the same time you expect that palla to run end song?

Furthermore the entire discussion about the resist buffs not being that important because they do not effect cc (besides sham root) is somewhat odd, cause as far I'm concerned every dmg less taken is dmg less to heal.

=> more time to do something else (perhaps shear some buffs with your free cleric then?)

But hey do what you want!!

If albs will have no palla or friar in there groups I'll gladly make tons of mid caster groups with 2dark rm & a rc rm

Non hib caster grps will lose every time they encounter hibs with BAoD up. Who would want to play that?

It´s also way better to rupt casters then to have resists and albs have a ****** of rupt so friars are useless.

You do know that palas can twist chants and have resists up 3/4 of the time?