kikoo wrote:

Gemma wrote:Noone would ever and ever make a new toon for this low bg, cause u just dont have enough utility for enjoying it the most, but nevertheless it would be refreshing and fun to not have to wait for so a long time to rvr a bit.

Players have no much utilities in Braemar neither, but that's the place with the highest activity so far. When a level 50 got bored for spamming in vain LFG and look at the /who braemar activity, what do you think he does?

I think that the huge numbers in Braemar not only come from BG-Hoppers, but for a huge part from just new players, who for one reason or another leave the server short after, and from players who lvld a toon, had seen that it isnt to their liking or they just cant get any further with it atm and made another one. At least i hope so, and i have to write that i know of noone who always makes a new toon, to play only play in Brae or BGs.

Gemma wrote:I think that the huge numbers in Braemar not only come from BG-Hoppers, but for a huge part from just new players, who for one reason or another leave the server short after, and from players who lvld a toon, had seen that it isnt to their liking or they just cant get any further with it atm and made another one.

Perhaps you're right. However it must pointed out that Uthgard population is quite stable, and that the possibility of new players balancing the amount of leaving ones is an extraordinary coincidence.

Gemma wrote:At least i hope so, and i have to write that i know of noone who always makes a new toon, to play only play in Brae or BGs.

So you're basically saying: "I don't think planes ever crash, because I've never seen one crashing in my garden".

kikoo wrote:

Gemma wrote:I think that the huge numbers in Braemar not only come from BG-Hoppers, but for a huge part from just new players, who for one reason or another leave the server short after, and from players who lvld a toon, had seen that it isnt to their liking or they just cant get any further with it atm and made another one.

Perhaps you're right. However it must pointed out that Uthgard population is quite stable, and that the possibility of new players balancing the amount of leaving ones is an extraordinary coincidence.

Gemma wrote:At least i hope so, and i have to write that i know of noone who always makes a new toon, to play only play in Brae or BGs.

So you're basically saying: "I don't think planes ever crash, because I've never seen one crashing in my garden".

Yeah, yeah. Be it like it is, you wont get more or less 50 rvr with a new BG. People who only want to do BG (Never seen such a plane crash) will stay in the BGs if there is a lower BG or not.

Dont implementing such a BG only means more xping trouble for these folks and oc for the ppl that just want to RvR, but without staying in BGs.

Gemma wrote:Yeah, yeah. Be it like it is, you wont get more or less 50 rvr with a new BG. People who only want to do BG (Never seen such a plane crash) will stay in the BGs if there is a lower BG or not.

You got it, mate! Now considering that they can't stop the RPs gain, how can they manage to stay in BGs without using another char?

kikoo wrote:

Gemma wrote:Yeah, yeah. Be it like it is, you wont get more or less 50 rvr with a new BG. People who only want to do BG (Never seen such a plane crash) will stay in the BGs if there is a lower BG or not.

You got it, mate! Now considering that they can't stop the RPs gain, how can they manage to stay in BGs without using another char?

I know this, but they would do it anyways, if there were another BG or not. So i say, just open a new BG, it wouldnt hurt 50 rvr. You got this?

I mean, i dont vote for /rp off here. Just saying that another low BG would be a nice thing for starting RvR-action sooner. Only problem is see with that is that MANY new players will QQ me, that they still wear grey and green armor. And i will say "You know where the dungeon is! Hush hush!"

Gemma wrote:I know this, but they would do it anyways, if there were another BG or not. So i say, just open a new BG, it wouldnt hurt 50 rvr. You got this?

Oh, absolutely. Of course they would do it anyway, since it will be easier for them. But it will surely tempt some people to join them, because:

players play where players are.


Don't take me wrong, I support the "more BGs" idea, but not on low level. The way I see BGs is a mean to cap RR to get a decent char to play with, and there is a big gap between Braemar and Wilton, and a HUGE gap between Wilton and Thidranki (just compare the time you have to stay there to cap RR). Currently, you cap RR in Braemar in no time. A BGs before this one would be capped within a couple of hours. That won't help much, and as I pointed out, it will inevitably have side effects.

kikoo wrote: A BGs before this one would be capped within a couple of hours.

Solution: lowered rp-gain in this BG.

Or even better. No rp-gain in this BG. The only rsp one could have then would be with lvl20.

Btw. i think of lvlranges of 15-25 / 25-35 / 35-43 / 43-49. Maybe cut xp in first Bg a bit too.

And plz, who wants to stay in a bg with a max lvl of 25?



I had wrote nearly half a site about something which also affects the unpresence of wide spread 5o rvr action, but since it was just to offtopic and hard to swallow for some peeps here i decided to delete it. (But couldnt keep myself from telling about it ). In short, it involves elitegangs, time and money.

Yet another thing: Team America welcomes all sorts of players to in its ranks. Just /send Captainamerica aka Mesmash or Flow aka Elper or Zoomy (yet another aka's all starting with zoom^^).

Atm we are mostly all building up our templates and skilling various craftingtrades, but we do almost every 2 days various alliance-raids, claiming keeps/towers day by day and want to build a great 50 RvR guild. OC we help our newly members with startupgear, money if needed and various other things like crafts and template-drops.

If u prefer to join a german guild we would love to help making contact to our allies <Fenrirs Welpen> or if you want to make the first step /send Nosmo aka Mulog aka Tarman aka Anulisa.

Btw, maybe we arent yet a powerful 50 RvR guild, but we will, and right atm we have at least the most active, overwhelming, stunning, beautyful, mighty, charming Hunter there is on this server: The extraordinary Seyha!!!

Gemma of <Team America> ally of <Exiles> ally of <Fenrirs Welpen>

If People leave after breamar BG i guess its because they , don't have the curage to grind theirselfs to 43 or something...

U want to have more players on higher levels , just improve the XP gaining sytem.. by introducing interesting quests on the XP side or something so people get some deversion besides the endless grinding in DF , a BG or frontiers ...

Improve XP and itemdroprates and quality of them so its atleast a bit more usefull to grind those mobs in all regions.

anyway me and my wife made it to level 28 , most levels above 20 made in BG, by doing mobs or just jumping into fights and trying to do our thing...
Hope i will not cap my RR before i reach level 33/34 or something ,-)

Gemma wrote:Or even better. No rp-gain in this BG.

Which coupled with /xp off gives the same result as /rp off.

Gemma wrote:And plz, who wants to stay in a bg with a max lvl of 25?

That is exatly the level limit which was worthy of a char deletion for my old school friends. On Uthgard, they wouldn't even bother to delete their char, they would just create another account.

Whitelights wrote:I
Hope i will not cap my RR before i reach level 33/34 or something ,-)

Unlikely, if you've started there at level 28. You'll hit 2L2 before the 35th I'm afraid.

kikoo wrote:

Gemma wrote:Or even better. No rp-gain in this BG.

Which coupled with /xp off gives the same result as /rp off.

ok No rp-gain + deactivating /xp off for this lvl-range, at these low-lvls there isnt any need to /xp off anyways.


Ill make a new thread: Who would play only in BGs? I really dont know why so many of you fear that ppl will stay in BGs forever. Just want to see if there are really many guys who would do this.

This is a stupid, paranoid fear imho!!

Ok, I am stupid and you are smart. Happy now?

We do not have the capacities for another bg. Battleground split the players from all other zones and homelands. If there would be an extra bg, you would even have less action in the current battlegronds.

Good decision. We don't need another BG. ;-P

kikoo wrote:Ok, I am stupid and you are smart. Happy now?

Never said that. I only wanted to make clear that there is a possible solution for every problem. If I made u feel that i was thinking u are stupid, then i apologise for it. It was never my intention.

Gemma wrote:Never said that. I only wanted to make clear that there is a possible solution for every problem. If I made u feel that i was thinking u are stupid, then i apologise for it. It was never my intention.

Let me clear that up, then. When I talked about people that kept rerolling to stay in level 25 BG, it wasn't something I thought it would happen, but something I've seen happening. It's not a belief, it's experience. Now if you're going to say that what I've seen is not possible, and referring to my experience as "stupid paranoid fear", then no wonder why I get the feeling that you somewhat question my mental sanity.