mfassben wrote:@ntc

And why is slam BM crappy?Cause he looses 10-20 Damage per swing compared to a 50 Blades one? o_0.Yep,loosing a 9 second anytime stun for 20 damage (if it even is that much) sounds GREAT to me .

I'll have to post the %'s. But I think you lose a lot more than just 20 dmg :>

@toblerone
Hum you qq a little bit too much. Like I said I played often 8v8 in old daoc days, why the hell does a Theurg need a spec nuke in the earth line? That isnt livelike like classic daoc and would be op there. 50 earth no need other lines

But I can sign the rest of your post. The pet resistrates are way too high. And the other bugs according to cc RAs are annoying as hell too!

http://guilds.camelotherald.com/charact ... n&c=670538


you dont need 9 seconds to kill a target, and if you do, you are not going to kill it to begin with...

switching weapons is a waste of time (especially if you miss), and the higher lvl CD styles have higher growth rates, its even more apparent on mercs, since the DW styles own

Brooms wrote:

mfassben wrote:@ntc

And why is slam BM crappy?Cause he looses 10-20 Damage per swing compared to a 50 Blades one? o_0.Yep,loosing a 9 second anytime stun for 20 damage (if it even is that much) sounds GREAT to me .

I'll have to post the %'s. But I think you lose a lot more than just 20 dmg :>

Depends what target you have, if its a paladin..no.. you wount see so much of a diff from 35+15 blades using CD styles to 50+15 blades using cd styles .. but if your target is a caster with no PD or a target with abs 19% or less ,the diference will be higher.. loose that base dmg you should get from 50+15 blades and get slam , but dont come afterwards QQ ing that u make poor dmg.

Wana see ur difrence of dmg from 35+15 to 50+15 blades? hit same player..a bm for example 100 times unstyled with one spec, take note of the min and max that u get, and then hit him 100 times with other spec unstyled take note of min and max and compare em, thats ur diff of dmg VS 19% abs:P .

ntc wrote:http://guilds.camelotherald.com/characters/chardisplay.php?server=Tristan&c=670538


you dont need 9 seconds to kill a target, and if you do, you are not going to kill it to begin with...

switching weapons is a waste of time (especially if you miss), and the higher lvl CD styles have higher growth rates, its even more apparent on mercs, since the DW styles own

Not to mention, I rarely see BMs trying to land positionals. They are spamming snowshower, squall or trying to spam slam on an immune target ^_^

yea except for the back slash chain, is the most dps a BM can put out...

Glacius wrote:

Brooms wrote:

mfassben wrote:@ntc

And why is slam BM crappy?Cause he looses 10-20 Damage per swing compared to a 50 Blades one? o_0.Yep,loosing a 9 second anytime stun for 20 damage (if it even is that much) sounds GREAT to me .

I'll have to post the %'s. But I think you lose a lot more than just 20 dmg :>

Depends what target you have, if its a paladin..no.. you wount see so much of a diff from 35+15 blades using CD styles to 50+15 blades using cd styles .. but if your target is a caster with no PD or a target with abs 19% or less ,the diference will be higher.. loose that base dmg you should get from 50+15 blades and get slam , but dont come afterwards QQ ing that u make poor dmg.

Why would I compare meleeing a paladin (lol in the first place) with meleeing a caster? Obviously the dmg will be different.

Need about 1k swings on the level 50 practive dummy with each spec.

Brooms wrote:

ntc wrote:http://guilds.camelotherald.com/characters/chardisplay.php?server=Tristan&c=670538


you dont need 9 seconds to kill a target, and if you do, you are not going to kill it to begin with...

switching weapons is a waste of time (especially if you miss), and the higher lvl CD styles have higher growth rates, its even more apparent on mercs, since the DW styles own

Not to mention, I rarely see BMs trying to land positionals. They are spamming snowshower, squall or trying to spam slam on an immune target ^_^

Slam when u got sidestun ....................................dayumn! i gota talk to neju..he can add hibs too at his sig' ))

Brooms wrote:

Glacius wrote:

Brooms wrote:

mfassben wrote:@ntc

And why is slam BM crappy?Cause he looses 10-20 Damage per swing compared to a 50 Blades one? o_0.Yep,loosing a 9 second anytime stun for 20 damage (if it even is that much) sounds GREAT to me .

I'll have to post the %'s. But I think you lose a lot more than just 20 dmg :>

Depends what target you have, if its a paladin..no.. you wount see so much of a diff from 35+15 blades using CD styles to 50+15 blades using cd styles .. but if your target is a caster with no PD or a target with abs 19% or less ,the diference will be higher.. loose that base dmg you should get from 50+15 blades and get slam , but dont come afterwards QQ ing that u make poor dmg.

Why would I compare meleeing a paladin (lol in the first place) with meleeing a caster? Obviously the dmg will be different.

Need about 1k swings on the level 50 practive dummy with each spec.

Read again what i told you.. u gota hit same target 100 times to find out min and max dmg with those 2 diferent specs ...ITS ENOUGH !:P trust me i was doing this in kindergarden ...you dont need 1000 hits cause u r not calculating Celtic dual chances to swing both hands .
I ve mentioned pala and caster cause vs pala u' ll not see soo much of a diference ..while on a caster you will having 50+15 weapon . . .. and those practice dummy suck ..you dont even know what abs they have compared to a player.

i didnt know that people were gimping their weapon for slam, I thought they were taking down DW and CD...

good god thats horid, how much weapon skill do you lose putting blades at 35?

that is like making a hero, and voluntarily giving yourself champ weapon skill lol

I think 15 to skill for a class like bm/merc is around 125 -150 WS max, droping skill in DW /CD is not good either.. u lower ur chances to swing both hands and you lower your style dmg when using CD/DW styles.

Glacius wrote:Depends what target you have, if its a paladin..no.. you wount see so much of a diff from 35+15 blades using CD styles to 50+15 blades using cd styles .. but if your target is a caster with no PD or a target with abs 19% or less ,the diference will be higher.. loose that base dmg you should get from 50+15 blades and get slam , but dont come afterwards QQ ing that u make poor dmg.

http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?n ... ic&t=15662

ntc wrote:i didnt know that people were gimping their weapon for slam, I thought they were taking down DW and CD...

good god thats horid, how much weapon skill do you lose putting blades at 35?

Oh wow another live superstar that doesn't know anything about cd/dw mechanics : ))))))))))))

Glacius wrote:I think 15 to skill for a class like bm/merc is around 125 -150 WS max, droping skill in DW /CD is not good either.. u lower ur chances to swing both hands and you lower your style dmg when using CD/DW styles.

The spec is 39wep, 42 shield, 50 DW.

I comapred Soxxs WS to mine and he was 300 WS skill lower :>

http://guilds.camelotherald.com/charact ... &c=1036200

lol believe me I know how it works

i just didnt know the euro tanks were dropping Weapon over CD, thats even worse...

Brooms wrote:

Glacius wrote:I think 15 to skill for a class like bm/merc is around 125 -150 WS max, droping skill in DW /CD is not good either.. u lower ur chances to swing both hands and you lower your style dmg when using CD/DW styles.

The spec is 39wep, 42 shield, 50 DW.

I comapred Soxxs WS to mine and he was 300 WS skill lower :>

300 ws diference is too much ..you have higher str also ..or maybe he s pierce spec... even so ..11 weapon means loosing base dmg and.. i m curious ..remains anything for parry ? cause when i fight Bm s 1 vs 1 ..hell i hit em like paper ..) apart from slam they r good to eat.

Glacius wrote:

Brooms wrote:

Glacius wrote:I think 15 to skill for a class like bm/merc is around 125 -150 WS max, droping skill in DW /CD is not good either.. u lower ur chances to swing both hands and you lower your style dmg when using CD/DW styles.

The spec is 39wep, 42 shield, 50 DW.

I comapred Soxxs WS to mine and he was 300 WS skill lower :>

300 ws diference is too much ..you have higher str also ..or maybe he s pierce spec... even so ..11 weapon means loosing base dmg and.. i m curious ..remains anything for parry ? cause when i fight Bm s 1 vs 1 ..hell i hit em like paper ..) apart from slam they r good to eat.

He's Frib. I'm firb. He's blades, I'm blades.

I have 0 Aug Str and only put 10 in at creation. Not sure what he did. I'll ask him tonight.