Happens to all alb/hib supporters I think.

Toblerone wrote:No, he outdamaged them both individually, by a pretty high margin too. With celerity he outdamaged them both combined. It's not QQing, it's facts. Maybe hedra still has the logs, if you wanna see them.

Don't they teach reading at accountant college ? ^^

After this : http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?n ... c&start=15

Toblerone wrote: Min damage wasn't 114, it was 94. All of my target's armor was in good condition and there is no AF loss.

..from a dmg like 94(-20) that u did...shows ur daoc understanding ..easy with the jokes.

Mid has celerity, deal with it.

My target's armor AF and absorb was in question. My damage was what it was against the same. Targets were same as your "test", so absorb is irrelevant. Twice you quote the same paragraph, and twice you take it out of context. Grats.

Don't they teach reading at accountant college ? ^^

You dont know how to calculate a base dmg done by a char, af and absorb got nothing to do wit hit. Stop qq ing and go play ur toons.

Glacius wrote:Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Go die to any and every class in a duel and complain about how OP their damage is because you don't know how to calculate base damage ^^

bawww wrote:
@Force I know you think it works like you say, and it should work as you say but on Uthgard it simply doesn't. Seriously just try not to relate too much to live experiences, Uthgard has little to do with live in any era when it comes to casters.

So you are claiming that any time you come up against 3 zerkers who charge on inc, you will die in 15 seconds?


That's the claim im refuting. Not that casters don't have it harder than tanks, or that old Ras wouldn't offer balance. The claim is that hibs and albs can't survive 15 seconds against 3 zerkers, and its ridiculous QQing.

do you not think its a bit ironic that the issue with hibernia is that obvious that you guys have posted for 25 pages on the issue - yet none of those posts will make the slightest bit of difference? no push towards change?

@ motaro - you are a plebian.

Force wrote:

bawww wrote:
@Force I know you think it works like you say, and it should work as you say but on Uthgard it simply doesn't. Seriously just try not to relate too much to live experiences, Uthgard has little to do with live in any era when it comes to casters.

So you are claiming that any time you come up against 3 zerkers who charge on inc, you will die in 15 seconds?


That's the claim im refuting. Not that casters don't have it harder than tanks, or that old Ras wouldn't offer balance. The claim is that hibs and albs can't survive 15 seconds against 3 zerkers, and its ridiculous QQing.

Did anyone say that we CAN'T survive ? Of course it's possible, usually if you counter the RA dump by more RA dump.

All I'm saying is that's it's the only realm who can instantkill stuff on inc so easily and win fights this way with 0 skill needed. I can't recall losing someone on inc, or seeing my heals being outdamaged by any hib/alb tank assist while I was free to heal, or very rarely. Yet I see this happening everyday againts mid. But yeah I guess it's because mids play better ^^

Nice straw man. And RA dumping is what NF is all about.

Hib may or better said actually does lack tankdmg, at least compared to a mid tank train, reason: celerity and some other things. As a cleric i know it from experience, there just is a huge difference wheter im healing against a mid train or a hib train.

Anyways i dont feel hib looses mostly due to that dmg/tanktrain problem. Hib is lacking rupt and utility. Compared to a Alb setup with sorc, theurg and cabby in it, its almost ridiculous how less rupt and utility even a hybrid/caster setup of hibernia offers. Or otherwise said, it need some rr and better teamplay than the opponents to still pull of a win.

But as a matter of fact, having patch 1.80 at max and eventually heading back to 1.65 just means gimping hib compared to the other realms. Just because it actually was like that back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrgcm60fTVU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpIud7km0GE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV48Jnyuneg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ndGocoKClk

ontopic : this server becomes so boring

forget about pug's

toblerone/maldirion most spamming people here and never come out with less then a fg

so boring really

hib maybe leak on dmg and ?
the most problem on this server is that the spirit of daoc is dead .. thats the point

Melodexx, there are a lot of players who managed to still inherit what you call "the spirit of daoc". Granted, there is a considerable amount of players who simply do not, players that tend to troll, flamebait, talking trash that makes no sense, however, these people are also a part of the community and are always good in creating some nonsense/slapstick-comedy within these forums ... just grab a cup of coffee in the morning and enjoy

Thank you for posting the videolinks. They do exactly give an overview on the spirit of daoc. Making friends, having fun together with your friends, battling for your realm and just having a good time.


With kind regards,
Sethor

Hedra wrote:[
All I'm saying is that's it's the only realm who can instantkill stuff on inc so easily and win fights this way with 0 skill needed. I can't recall losing someone on inc, or seeing my heals being outdamaged by any hib/alb tank assist while I was free to heal, or very rarely. Yet I see this happening everyday againts mid. But yeah I guess it's because mids play better ^^

This in totally wrong. I don't know where you play, or in what universe you're, but say that all zerks are dumb kids that just press a "1" on the keyboard and they blow up everything is insane. Really.

If you want balance, dear Alb-player, then delete the Theurges, delete the Cabalists and their damn RR 5, NS, etc. delete the OPed range of the Sorcerer, the dmg of the lifedrain, slam-bot DW dps, and so on and so on. The Alb playstyle is extremely easy and you complain about 2 zerkers that blow you up? Get a life man.

I bet that when Xacrags killed your precious Theurge, was in assist train with Flump (8L+ zerk) andm aybe someone else High RR... it's natural that your mage was raped, but not for the class, just for the RR and the cloth armor. Or maybe again, there was a skald with AotG 3 and the mage was istantly died. Who knows? You just posted a screen without nothing to prove what you're saying.

My RM in group dies a lot because he has on his back 1 merc, 1 AotG pala, and a random DPS with High RR, like KT-ppl. I will make a screenshot of my uberheals on him! (Ofc i'm ironic)

Now stop to say that Midgard is only a realm of coconuts-headed players, when you play Albion that basically has like 30 utilities more than Mid or Hib.

To return on topic:

Many FGH runs with tanks. 1 Hero, 3 BMs, 3 Supps, 1 random-melee. Yesterday i fought an hib group that ran only tanks without mages nor Warden for AotG. Now, do you see something wrong in it?

Apoc315 wrote:This in totally wrong. I don't know where you play, or in what universe you're, but say that all zerks are dumb kids that just press a "1" on the keyboard and they blow up everything is insane. Really.

I play on Uthgard. Yesterday again I was facing two zerks, then I got stunned and both of them stayed sticked in front on me spamming doublefrost for the whole stun duration. And those were not low RRs randoms. Anyway I didn't say all zerks.

If you want balance, dear Alb-player, then delete the Theurges, delete the Cabalists and their damn RR 5, NS, etc. delete the OPed range of the Sorcerer, the dmg of the lifedrain, slam-bot DW dps, and so on and so on. The Alb playstyle is extremely easy and you complain about 2 zerkers that blow you up? Get a life man.

lol. Then delete demezz and baseline mezz on both healers, baseline disease and insta disease on shaman, instants CCs on pac/skald, root on pac healer+shaman+all casters, deftanks with stoicism + best 2h damage in game + backsnare while guarding, all resists in every groups and so on and so on...
Alb has good utility casters but you have to sacrifice a lot of other utility than mid can have in every group. No 2nd demezzer, no friar resists and the deftank without stoicism can make this setup fail for instance.

I bet that when Xacrags killed your precious Theurge, was in assist train with Flump (8L+ zerk) andm aybe someone else High RR... it's natural that your mage was raped, but not for the class, just for the RR and the cloth armor. Or maybe again, there was a skald with AotG 3 and the mage was istantly died. Who knows? You just posted a screen without nothing to prove what you're saying.

Yes he was in assist, it's still retarded to die in the same second after an instant heal, especially when they are unstoppable due to charge.

I'm just stating what I've seen various times in rvr regarding zerks damage and that I've never seen happening against mercs or bms. But I play OP alb (currently) so I must be wrong, right ? ^^

Apoc315 wrote:The Alb playstyle is extremely easy and you complain about 2 zerkers that blow you up?

Easier than sos, charge, stick & style ? I don't think so.

Apoc315 wrote:Now stop to say that Midgard is only a realm of coconuts-headed players, when you play Albion that basically has like 30 utilities more than Mid or Hib.

What 30 utilities are those ? I can't think of a single alb utility that counts as a constant advantage.