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Postby Toblerone » Mar 28, 2010 19:17

I didn't know prekiting was selective, sometimes you do it, sometimes you stand still and die willingly ? :lol:

You're hilarious.

I really admire your positive theorycraft, I really do. Thing is no decent player who rvrs on other realms on uthgard will or ever would agree with you.
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Postby Glacius » Mar 28, 2010 19:22

Hedra wrote:I don't complain about merc or bm damage. Their damage are allright imo, even with shield spec. But that won't change the stupidly high damage spikes zerks can do leading to freewin instantkill on some incs by simply using anytimers.


Again the anytimer problem..why cant u understand that from 0.75 growth on doublefrost with malus cause of Laxe to 0.60 growth style for alb/hib anytimer with 100% base dmg is not so much of a diference, and....... qq inc cause zerkers crit for too much using vendo mode is ..laughable:))

Toblerone wrote:
Lastly, BMs will never come close to zerkers when it comes to damage, not even being firbolgs with triple wield. They are the best hibernia has to offer but still far inferior damage dealers compared to their counterparts from other realms.



Simply...no! Bm s can deal dmg , probl is that u spec bad and take ****** races, even you got a celt hero who is oke for guard but..dont complain about your dmg plz....
And you should look at the numbers Toblerone, you act and talk like you know all and we r are stupid , the numbers contradict you. I know Maxxwell as Bm firby ..rest of em like Rastah and Trafalgar are all celt gimps with slam spec , tell me some other rr7+ bm that play active and are firby race and hell they are not thrust spec ..they r slash,,how u want em to wtfpwn VS mid chain ?
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Postby Ironberg » Mar 28, 2010 19:24

mad high realm ranks you had on live bro

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Postby Force » Mar 28, 2010 19:26

Toblerone wrote:I didn't know prekiting was selective, sometimes you do it, sometimes you stand still and die willingly ? :lol:



huh? how about if there arent zerkers charging you, you don't need speed to pre kite? Do your groups not have any CC in them? Do you not sprint?


I think you're just trolling now.

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 28, 2010 19:28

You're trolling, I'm countering it with common sense. The best way ;)
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Postby Force » Mar 28, 2010 19:29

Toblerone wrote: I'm countering it with appeal to authority fallacies, red herrings, and ad hominem. The best way ;)


fixed it for ya.

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 28, 2010 19:32

Yeah common sense is so rare nowadays people will see it as many different other things, especially deluded people with biased views. :wink:
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Postby Hedra » Mar 28, 2010 19:33

Glacius wrote:
Hedra wrote:I don't complain about merc or bm damage. Their damage are allright imo, even with shield spec. But that won't change the stupidly high damage spikes zerks can do leading to freewin instantkill on some incs by simply using anytimers.


Again the anytimer problem..why cant u understand that from 0.75 growth on doublefrost with malus cause of Laxe to 0.60 growth style for alb/hib anytimer with 100% base dmg is not so much of a diference, and....... qq inc cause zerkers crit for too much using vendo mode is ..laughable:))

I don't care you do the same damage on paper daoc. I'm talking about what happens in actual rvr.

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 28, 2010 19:36

Hedra wrote:
Glacius wrote:
Hedra wrote:I don't complain about merc or bm damage. Their damage are allright imo, even with shield spec. But that won't change the stupidly high damage spikes zerks can do leading to freewin instantkill on some incs by simply using anytimers.


Again the anytimer problem..why cant u understand that from 0.75 growth on doublefrost with malus cause of Laxe to 0.60 growth style for alb/hib anytimer with 100% base dmg is not so much of a diference, and....... qq inc cause zerkers crit for too much using vendo mode is ..laughable:))

I don't care you do the same damage on paper daoc. I'm talking about what happens in actual rvr.


Pfft it's common knowledge that zerkers do the same damage as BMs. Everyone playing only midgard knows that. Only motaro does better damage because he's smart.
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Postby Force » Mar 28, 2010 19:41

If you don't think its livelike, do a simple test, in fact, didn't Glacius try to help you do that Toblerone?

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 28, 2010 19:50

Nope, nothing of the sort.

But we already compared tank damages on uthgard, and zerker is way ahead of both merc and blademaster. With celerity running for 1 minute, the rr6 zerker outdamaged both rr9 merc and rr7 blademaster damages combined ^^
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Postby Glacius » Mar 28, 2010 20:17

Toblerone wrote:Nope, nothing of the sort.

But we already compared tank damages on uthgard, and zerker is way ahead of both merc and blademaster. With celerity running for 1 minute, the rr6 zerker outdamaged both rr9 merc and rr7 blademaster damages combined ^^


AAAAAAAAAAAa so zerker outdmged the bm and merc with celerity.. :)))))))))))))))))))))))) combined they say .. Toblerone u r nothing more then a QQ er .

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 28, 2010 20:34

No, he outdamaged them both individually, by a pretty high margin too. With celerity he outdamaged them both combined. It's not QQing, it's facts. Maybe hedra still has the logs, if you wanna see them.

Don't they teach reading at accountant college ? ^^
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Postby bawww » Mar 28, 2010 21:14

Sethor wrote:The point is ... playing a caster in DAoC is by far more challenging, but if mastered they obviously rock :)


True dat, it's how it works in DAoC. Too bad this is not daoc this is Uthgard.


@Force I know you think it works like you say, and it should work as you say but on Uthgard it simply doesn't. Seriously just try not to relate too much to live experiences, Uthgard has little to do with live in any era when it comes to casters.


@Glacius You have absolutely no Idea what you are talking about when it comes to bm/merc specs or balance overall for that matter. I have told you why celerity on mid is OPed like FIVE TIMES in that topic but you either refused to understand or you couldn't (ADD).




To conclude I would have no problems with mid tanks having insane damage spikes (zerker/svg) IF casters had castspeed bonus and tanks had melee speed bonus, be it in old RA form or on items, like this the situation is just ridiculous.

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Postby Artefact » Mar 28, 2010 21:25

Hedra wrote:Instants and greater heal indeed help a lot in some situations :D

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Oh !! i'm not the only support who it happens to ? :D
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