I understand you murax, but celerity is simply too strong. Way too strong.

Well, as regards menta hot, mid got much better thing - shamans group friggs (even if its only hp regen buff it has huge value and noticable effect on health regens in fight).

And cele simply allows to reach huge dmg on hybrids (thane, skald) with relatively low weapon spec and futhermore ws, bigger or at least similar to armsman (double spec infulencing ws/dmg!) or hero.

dood frigs are joke, show me shaman that specces for them and uses them.

kk,remove Cele and give Skald Autofend and a real HoT and Petspam for Shaman

dood shamans spec now 47aug 26mend?

Sure menta HoT is a nice tool for ! PvE !. I'm yet to see a mana mentalist in RvR. Not that HoT would make a difference anyway. Whereas cele definitely does.

I know it would suck to give cele to warden and pal because it would boost those classes and other classes will want their post 1.80 improvements too ...

But once again, why not add a celerity charge, as we've got spec af charge ? The realms would be more balanced and it wouldn't change the balance between specific classes...

Celerity doesnt matter for savages anyway.

Midgard isn't op, midgard has more skilled rvr-able players, while other realms's players spend time pve-ing or donno what they do like always was. In charts i see both hib and alb 35%, while mid 30%. Population isnt a issue, neither celerity. Face reality.

massivmampfer wrote:In the "god old times" with old ras and unique abilities there was no celerity. Everyone could spec RAs to receive a selfhaste and in that days there was no celerity. With old ras it would be fairer anyway as this would improve casters too. With old ras casters can get mastery of arts to finally improve cast speed and celerity would no longer be necessary/avaiable too.

maybe i understand this wrong, but celerity for healers was introduced only a half year after the us launch: patch 1.51 http://www.camelotherald.com/news/news_ ... toryid=389
at this time i had a aug healer, but they were considered more or less gimps. everyone just wanted pac healers.
anyway, i like the idea of old ras too.

Runis wrote:Celerity doesnt matter for savages anyway.

Midgard isn't op, midgard has more skilled rvr-able players, while other realms's players spend time pve-ing or donno what they do like always was. In charts i see both hib and alb 35%, while mid 30%. Population isnt a issue, neither celerity. Face reality.

lol i hope that's ironic or just to bring some out off topic flamings

Sorry Runis i cant agree, only fact is that midgard got most players who want do rvr ...

Runis wrote:Celerity doesnt matter for savages anyway.

Midgard isn't op, midgard has more skilled rvr-able players, while other realms's players spend time pve-ing or donno what they do like always was. In charts i see both hib and alb 35%, while mid 30%. Population isnt a issue, neither celerity. Face reality.

And what reality are you talking about exactly? The fact that for Midgard it's much easier to attain a good grp set-up which is probably giving you the illusion that Midgard has 'better' players?


Oh and anyways, in the charts I see that hib has 39% of all rps whereas mid only has 33%. Even taking population imbalance into account hibs still score higher.

Runis wrote:Midgard isn't op, midgard has more skilled rvr-ableplayers

just lol ~~

Celerity doesnt matter for savages anyway.

Probably, if healer haste really stacks with savage self haste as i heard, which would be totally stupid ^^

Runis wrote:Celerity doesnt matter for savages anyway.
In charts i see both hib and alb 35%, while mid 30%. Population isnt a issue, neither celerity. Face reality.

about population...you must be some kind of silly to see THAT chart as who is playing in the realm...

i have a nice lowie in albions starter guild and i was bored..so i decidet to look up the offline in the starterguild sozial...

i found 829 pages full of names..and i bet 90% are below level 5 and were not online for over 400 days..(hint to staff: its time to kill some of those not played chars to bring back tha charts a bit closer to reality).

and albion is usually the startrealm for Daoc..and later a lot of player change realm..and leave their bodies in our stats.

You didnt got it. Charts are based of 1 week time.

What is the difference between a rvr-able player, who DOES rvr, and one who does PvE? Skill i think. Its not like i said that 100% mids are better than 100% hibs and albs, but those 50% that in mid do RvR, are surely better than those 50% that do PvE or whatever in hib/alb. Midgard has plenty of noobs, dont worry but i guess they are better than doing PvE or 10 legendary crafters.

Since i joined this server hib/alb only whined about mid overpowered, and this will never stop.