DAoC never has or will have fair fights...its an impossibility, not only are some classes just simply op compared to others but some will have a better understanding of what gear and sc'ed items they need etc etc etc. no matter how much you tweak there will never be a fair fight.

lol i always find it funny that its always the hibby players who have always had and always will have the advantage in this game (Mythic must have made mad love to hibernia and never stopped), that they will be the first to down and belittle other players that complain. Sure we could all be ubah hibernians but that would leave no one for them to pound on lol. I hate hibernia...it looks like candyland gone wrong the classes are fruity...its a terrible place...plus alot of the enemies that are pve there are horribly misplaced leaving lowbies to fend off grapes all over the hibernian lands. Pork off Hibernia, go back to candyland and leave people who really have skill alone.

kharnatex wrote:lol i always find it funny that its always the hibby players who have always had and always will have the advantage in this game (Mythic must have made mad love to hibernia and never stopped), that they will be the first to down and belittle other players that complain. Sure we could all be ubah hibernians but that would leave no one for them to pound on lol. I hate hibernia...it looks like candyland gone wrong the classes are fruity...its a terrible place...plus alot of the enemies that are pve there are horribly misplaced leaving lowbies to fend off grapes all over the hibernian lands. Pork off Hibernia, go back to candyland and leave people who really have skill alone.

wow we have found the flamingfury of albion

gz, hope you have a good time on uthgard

There's no eldritches in albion nubcake.

kharnatex wrote:lol i always find it funny that its always the hibby players who have always had and always will have the advantage in this game (Mythic must have made mad love to hibernia and never stopped), that they will be the first to down and belittle other players that complain. Sure we could all be ubah hibernians but that would leave no one for them to pound on lol. I hate hibernia...it looks like candyland gone wrong the classes are fruity...its a terrible place...plus alot of the enemies that are pve there are horribly misplaced leaving lowbies to fend off grapes all over the hibernian lands. Pork off Hibernia, go back to candyland and leave people who really have skill alone.

Cute ^^

Before you say OP play all 3 realms first. and dont spend 1 week in candlyland or the snow cone area before you judge.

I've spent over a year in each. All have Great Set ups. And i would have to stay for 8 man its pretty Darn even. you just need to find the people that know how to play.

But dont get me started with small groups of only 2 people....
talking about OP I still havent seen a Sorc/Clerik combo lose
Vs 2 others ( Sorc being RR5+ with MoC3 )

But if you still think Hibs are the Over Power Realm Check out all the DDs/Toys/Damage Tables/Armour/abiltys And RA's.

most Classes are only good if you find a person that can play Each of those greatly.

Its the One Button Spammers that can still win 90% vs GOOD players. that are the OP Class and what classes are like that here on uthgard???

Salidor wrote:Its the One Button Spammers that can still win 90% vs GOOD players. that are the OP Class and what classes are like that here on uthgard???

Hmm savage, reaver, bonedancer...

purge>>>reaver
bd has no chance against good eld
svg gets blocked by shieldspec

Every fight that leaves the enemy killed to death is a fair fight.

Game style is RvR, so live with it.

Nuff said.

Hibernia is divided into several partys. They insult each other daily.

We have broadflame about this topic like adding.
We have no Dragonraid for hibs (just for guilds only, dunno if other guild except MB do DR Raids too)

But when there is an event, everybody cooperates with his worsest enemy to win. I like that =)

massivmampfer wrote:purge>>>reaver
bd has no chance against good eld
svg gets blocked by shieldspec

How many people have purge 2 ?
How many people have an eldritch, and rvr with it ?
How many people have shield spec ?

Do they even make 10% of the population ?

Duke wrote:But when there is an event, everybody cooperates with his worsest enemy to win. I like that =)

Yesterday's event was utter chaos, we only won because we zerged.

A fair fight in DAoC lasts longer than two minutes, casualties on both sides, no adders and makes the losing side feel like: "Damn, so close, alright change of plan..."

What I see here mostly is:

1v1v1
3v1v1
3v3v1
4v3
4v4
8v4
8v8
16v8
16v0

In all RvR situations, RvR just grows and grows untill one of the realms collapses. Resulting in no RvR at all.

I hereby ask people to sense this coming.

"Hahaha those stupid mids have no chance against us, We'll be here camping keep untill I'm RR13!" ==> "Hhm mids are getting their arses kicked so badly, anyone up for a smaller group to roam instead of defending ck ?"

"Hah that low RR group with their craptastic tactics are no match for us, I can take them on singlehandedly, but I'll just stick with the other groups, I don't want to die, if they get lucky that is..." ==> "Man they are getting their asses kicked, let's split up and fight them individually."

"Oh we NEARLY killed them, alright, lets make a second group and rush em !" ==> "So close, hmm, hey you, can you log your healer class while Bob logs his CC ?"

"Oh look ! Those two guys are dueling ! *grabs bow* ARPEEEEEZZZZZ" ==> "Hmm those two are dueling, I'll watch and wait and then challenge the winner to test my skills..."

actually i play all 3 thats how i know about the purps and crap from hibby lands...i'll make a good run down of op classes in this game....well granted this is from my knowledge of live pay to play servers .

Bonedancer...if played right can solo groups of players...thats why 4 sec insta life tap was dropped to 6 seconds

Vampyre....pre nerf (though its not here) on classic servers where way op and could solo 2-3 players pretty good

Berzerker...pre nerf cause of left axe always hitting was a dps machine

Bainshee...pre nerf (though its not here) easily mow down groups of people

Animist...pre nerf (haven't seen one yet lol) before they limited the number of shrooms they could put out where very evil in pve and pvp.

Infiltrator...quite easily the best rogue (melee non ranged) of all three realms can down casters/healers in pretty much one hit, while NS and SB struggle to down in 2 or 3

Warlock...With a combo of a SM can down entire Battlegroups with just 2 people.....THIS happened to me on live server 2 people caught a 50 man train off guard and murdered us in seconds...i had to freaking laugh these guys where awesome

I'd probably add in the Bard and Skald into this, but i've never bothered playing them really so I won't just put them up there...and I'll probably have to put up one spell from all hibby casters that rank as op is the insta stun....yeah i don't see albion or middy casters getting anything close to as good in baseline as that.

oh well i'm not flaming just pointing out the op and what not that i've seen, its probably very different here

ps....i still don't like hibby all to much it just looks so green and almost the entire landscape looks the same lol....from what i've read from when they developed the game, Albion lands took the longest to make, middy took second longest and the shortest to put into graphics was hibernia...but oh well I'm just here to play for a bit...not argue logistics and what not...if I die in bg/rvr oh well did i lose xp...did i lose con on my gear....no....so fight fight fight and keep going cause you can only gain from rvr...you can't lose anything...unless you have a short temper lol.


laters all peace love you all

Raven wrote:"Oh look ! Those two guys are dueling ! *grabs bow* ARPEEEEEZZZZZ" ==> "Hmm those two are dueling, I'll watch and wait and then challenge the winner to test my skills..."

==> Oh look, those 2 are dueling, I better turn on my fraps and take some screenshots so I can report them for arpee farming.

Flamingfury wrote:

massivmampfer wrote:purge>>>reaver
bd has no chance against good eld
svg gets blocked by shieldspec

How many people have purge 2 ?
How many people have an eldritch, and rvr with it ?
How many people have shield spec ?

Do they even make 10% of the population ?

Purge 1 is realy enough vs reavers
we got serveral elds
every hero got shield specc + some bms

Flamingfury wrote:

massivmampfer wrote:purge>>>reaver
bd has no chance against good eld
svg gets blocked by shieldspec

How many people have purge 2 ?
How many people have an eldritch, and rvr with it ?
How many people have shield spec ?

Do they even make 10% of the population ?

I have purge2 +shield spec
And I think I rapresent the 30%+ of mid solo's^

You always complains about one button spammers, but do you know what you say?

Almost every shield tank usually go slam+backstyle+anytime=3 buttons
Enchanters always used stun+debuff+dd+bomb= 4 buttons
Savages use 3-4 selfbuffs+2styles= 5-6 buttons
Clerics use stun+spread+small heal+bigger healer= 4 buttons
Bonedancers use debuff+istant lifedrain+root+dd= 4 buttons
Wizard uses root+2bolts+dd=4 buttons

What's the difference between a wizard and a bd?
They use same keys, but bd can kill in solo a bigger range of classes than wizard.
It has no sense that you complain because there is ONLY 1 active bd going solo sometime, and if it would use only 1 button like you are sayng, almost everyone could kill it.

This 1 button legend born because bd could kill all those children which ran solo to say "i'm uber I can pwn everyone ahah"
For savages, it really has no sense but when people see the they do higher damage respect other classes --> "ah it's a gimp class only noobs play it"