solo cabba lvl-speed >>>>>>>>all :>

hmmm what the heck i think i rol alb just for fun pana u can plz email me at Slyfon@yahoo.com so i can geet ure email i wnat to discus sum things with u plz

-greets

CM

use irc , so everybody can laugh ^^

Like other people have been saying, its not the characters its the players behind them.

Its not that they're not skilled, well they ARENT 'skilled' ,just some of them are just so damn unconsciencious. On two occasions now, 2fgs of albs (relatively balanced groups, merc 2 clerics sorc theugist armsman blah blah) FAILED to kill 1 fg hib (which happened to be MB) and another mid group (a mix of high RR players ) . It was because everyone was doing their own thing, or assisting the wrong person who was attacking the wrong target (well not wrong target, unpracticle target). We got wiped very quickly. Nobody was assisting the AL, well I was but I was rooted .

Actaully the only alb group ive been in that managed to kill some hibs/mids of the same quantity was inquisition in thidranki (8 albs VS 8-12 hibs) ................some players are just more aware in battle than others.

problem with clerics is they ae defenceless. any cleric who specs smite we be laughed at and left to solo.
compare classes:

cleric : pbaoes mezz> (requires gimp smite spec> normaly dont take hold> removable> ruins any future of mezz. has to be in melle range to use.> )cleric normally is dead.

druid : two instant roots> not removeable> normally not rooted in the start of fight, so it sticks.

bard: SOS> endurance> instant mezz times 2.

shaman: inchor> instant deasase> perma endurance>

healer: range instant aoe mezz.

this is why cleric dont heal well. they cant get away once hit. they just die.

the mezz problem is casters. caster die in emain in seconds.if a sorc is luck to get mezz off before ameeasia hits. that will be the last thing he does. meanwhile the other realm mezzer are demezzing and mezzing albs.

sorc = easy killed.

bard = hard as hell to kill.

healer= chain armour.

mezz dont win fights with real players. mezz is removable. since sorcs die right away. alb tend to lose this, then roots(unremovable) come into play and inchor.
since the sorc is dead, inchor is removed. and few alb caster dare play emain, leaving albs losen the root game.
now the druid and shaman step up and play the root game.

Ill start off simply saying...on Uthgard I only play Hib. I have for years on any RVR server. My experience with other realms came from time spent on the Co-op server from live.

Every realm has their advantages and disadvantages. I can speak from the Hib perspective in regards to healers to address thoughts of over powered classes. The druid is Hibs only true healer...true being effective and long lasting. Sure a Mentalist gets a hot...but its still a caster, disease -> hit -> dead. Bard...effective RVR spec is very cookie cutter...you want red speed, instant AOE mez, spec the rest in heals.....News flash, bard still wont save ya with heals. If you don't kill the one with a drum thats your own fault Even the warden is a support class, most commonly refered to as bubble bots.

I lead a guild on Hib Uthgard, and we have players who have come from other realms. The biggest common theme from players transferring from Alb is the difficulty they have in getting a group, the fact that in a BG there is 2 groups of Alb's running around and its every man for themselves. They will come to Hib and like the fact that rarely where there be a day where they cant find a group, or get help on something. Every realm will have their shining star characters that other players die to and ask themselves why they have that ability, or say its imbalanced. Just cause SB and Inf seem to get far better dual wield, or because mids can PA me with a large weapon by using a single line spec, or a scout can shield slam....does this mean I don't go out into RVR and fight against these classes? Hell no, I kill some, I die to some. So is life.

Every character has strengths and weaknesses, and as a player if you don't find out what your characters are and acknowledge them then its going to make it harder on yourself. Know your role and stick to the guns. If I, as a NS, jump a Friar-Arms-Berserker I expect to die...that is not my fight. 8 vs 8 or similar fight if I target casters or healers it helps my group or realm mates to be effective and come out on top.

As said many time in this thread...the problem is not the classes or the realms...its the player.

Know your role. Serve your purpose. And have fun.

If you keep dying terribly to the same class, maybe thats not your fight. Find out what is.

Being OP is situational. Use your strengths to make your own situation and quit whining. Put yourself at a disadvantage then live with the result.

Just my 2 cents.

jadinfrost

so true im a bard.. so i dont cry when any class kill me.. even when blue mobs i dont really cry (maybe a comment to guild but nothing else )

on the other hand i know what i need to do in rvr.. speed.. end.. buff.. mez.. interrupt.. thats my main purpose.. and thats what i will do then.. so ofcourse i know i shouldnt try go out solo and kill infs or SBs or warriors or anything.. but i need a grp to survive and I accept that..
wish more people would do the same..

ps. everyone who says bards is a healing class need to try play one.. usualy im oop very fast.. and if you see me heal its because we have no druids or they are already dead :p bards are not meant to heal.. never.. no matter how much ya spec in regrowth..


just my 2 cents

Nixian you missed that Heal ..................................

jkin :+)

sal

haha

you know my theory about bards healing..

i tell you all! its doom if bards need to heal in rvr.. if they try so they will get marked and insta killed.. i tell you its dooming the whole grp if a bard starts healing...

nixian wrote:haha

you know my theory about bards healing..

i tell you all! its doom if bards need to heal in rvr.. if they try so they will get marked and insta killed.. i tell you its dooming the whole grp if a bard starts healing...

you should stop smoking that ****** o_O

hes right.

The most hibs are allways flaming about midgard imba single tanks ... but they are rupting all healers.

So the hibs need to find the healers too. What class for this ? Split all tanks?

NO! Use the bard as rupt char and dont smoke ****** and heal the tanks need to be an assisttrain, if they do they will outdamage the single mid tanks and with a good bard the healers of the enemy cant heal against ur assisttrain -> win

you know amnesie needs ****** much mana? °°

Aragorn wrote:you know amnesie needs ****** much mana? °°

Less than a heal.

Bards are great interruptors. Single lull, ae lull, dd, or just plain old mezz spamming. Sure it takes mana, but if you have a decent group mana really isn't your biggest concern.

Interesting discussions... it seems that most of you never played in other realms
and Yyrd: a group shouldn't be a cluster of solo chars. A Minstrel can also mezz, every caster in your group can root, maybe a pala can slam single adds.
I think organization is most important in alb groups. If you don't have TS, it's skill ^^
@Malle you remember your RR1 clerics?

i played all 3 realms!