I read almost all of the first page and scanned the second page. One thing I did not notice was another argument for new players...

If the majority of the active Uthgard players can't have their twinks in the BG's... who am I going to play with when I get there?

I voted to end the restriction.

Sincerely,

Uvadiir - Under 30 Bubble Runie

with all the new players uthgard will have soon.

I sincerely hope that happens!

Ah well... I guess we will find out.
@DanGer666: how soon will we have how many new players after this change?

Because vague prophecies are not helping in projects. Lets measure how successful this change is. Counting in the people (even the low RR people count) that get frustrated and go inactive.

Make a wild guess?

@Sethor:

Do you want me to flip around that questionfitting my purpose? Wink

By asking what for example I am needed for?
Would be a point. Sure. Do you have an answer?

I do. For a small population in one of the realms on this server I am someone who they would miss. Needed? No.

But I am aware of that and do not overestimate my own importance. And yes, I know that you do a lot of very useful stuff like tests etc.

But the pure user (like me) with a high RR (unlike me)? Nice he/she is around. Needed? No.

Or did I miss your point completely?

@staff: Your shard, your decisions. For me it just leaves a bad taste when it looks like you just listen to the faction of the community that screams the loudest. I am not implying that this is the case, I am just speaking about how it looks like sometimes.

There are other people calling this server their digital home as well. Not just the people with a high forum count. Please do not forget us.

This is my last post on this topic, but I am happy to continue the discussion over PM. I just do not want to stir the pot any longer in public. Does not help anyone.

Sest, I'm not the one who has been crying about the bg situation. As a matter
of fact I pretty much enjoy the decision the staff took to stop the extreme
twinking in Braemar. The thing I'm complaining about is the lack of understandment
why this action took place!
I mean hey, it is a matter of fact that Uthgard is a so called lvl50 rvr freeshard,
but still has only a minor interest of its players to participate in it. And if this
wasn't enough players like Nestral with 4 lvl50 chars containing soloable AND
groupable chars of decent RR claim to not have fun in Emain and thatfor are
twinking in Braemar. Now please tell me that this is the right way, because if
it was the staff should really DELETE all lvl30+ chars and just keep Uthgard
a lvl30Freeshards and to be honest. If I would have cried about that situation
the forums would have torn down in flames around half a year ago, but guess
what...I just did not care. And now that the time has come and the staff MUST
act due to low numbers in the supposedly main rvr zone players like Nestral
show up and complain that they want to keep twinking...hmm and you really
await me to accept this?

tztztz,

i dont know what all of these guys in this topic are thinking.

here i cou nt some facts of RL and Game.
1. Everyone can decide free what he want to do.
2. Everyone can decide to stop xping on lv 30.
3. Everyone has own mind so in fact own likings.
4. Everyone can decide by himself of using only BG´S or Emain too

all in all, if so much people decide to /xp off their chars on lv 30 , sry that is their own decide and noone accepts this here:

This is all from my Side i think like Gesy, much changeings but for what prize.

Think of this, because not the faction, who crys loudest has really right

salbei wrote:hmmm how about lowering the cap RR at the bgs to an absolute minimum?
like :

1L5 braemar
2l0 wilton
3l0 thidranki

maybe even lower . would fix some "i wanna bg all day" attitude. i like that auto lvl up idea in exchange for hitting the cap.

ekhm no .. thidranki was created to get some nice rr to have any chance with emain veterans

If we would have answered the loudest cry there would be no more bg's. The comparison lacks sense. I already told you why the descision was made. If you're unable to read me postings don't comment them sest.

Presto wrote:If we would have answered the loudest cry there would be no more bg's. The comparison lacks sense. I already told you why the descision was made. If you're unable to read me postings don't comment them sest.

You laugh - No BG's at all, but a proper and totally working frontier for all.

Sethor wrote:My very first lvl50char on liveservers needed around 6months to reach lvl50
and to be honest...on Uthgard you are able to level up to 50 in around a week!

When you made your first char, you were not so good^ so it's hard to raise level.
For week you probalby mean 24 h x7 days, but I think it's impossible. Show me a log of a character lv 50 in less than 200 hours and I will believe it
It could be theorically possible MAYBE if you have always a 8 men-perfect setup-same level group, but pratically it's impossible

Shaman + (insert melee dmg-dealer here) will do it.
Caster + (insert puller here; e.g. hunter is nice) + tinderboxes will do it.
Of course this won't work for every class, but as long as you exp on decent
spots perfectly fitting your level you will be able to exp pretty fast. Casters
are somehow limited to exp fast within their realm (tinderbox restriction).
However...this is offtopic ^^

@nestral

after some "fighting" with staff decisions and some ideas that looks to be stupid for you, you'll learn there is nothing to do and there is no use to discuss and get trubles.

if the staff think it's better for the community there must be some reasons. if you don't agree with such decision you try something to turn around the decision. if there is no way to turn around, you have to live with. if you can't live with it, you leave...

i learned it's the way things work.

but in the end, it's a game, just enjoy the rest is not important.

(by the way you can learn alot in braemar. the ones that wouldn't agree are people that play daoc alone and don't wanna play with others players if they are not progammers. try to spend some time to build groups (maybe the base with guild mates) and you can have fun and learn.)

@nestral² thanks for your help in braemar etc... and take some time to make the community fairer and better.

It's a logical change, BG is a place to have some fun and expirience while level, not an easy mode for RvR. Imop we are not enough to play all BG's and have fun, in fact check the results now: Braemar-fun, Rest bored mostly time, even Emain.

When we gather as the finish of the way in Emain we'll have much more fun and the problem with high-low RR groups will be solved becouse you'll have 3-4 groups in each realm like in instants with more or less the same population as we have.

This way don't work lets test eniway no?

@Hardnuke,

That's not that way at all, you are full of rules and laws in a game as in your comunity, life and so on, it's necesary.

jrhadden i enjoyed your post, well thuoght out. nice work.

i think people want to stay in breamer they can just roll a new toon. not so hard to get 30. i alway keep a few toons rdy to go as my old ones grow out.
ive got a icer ,theugy and a merc rdy once my friar is done.

Presto wrote:If we would have answered the loudest cry there would be no more bg's. The comparison lacks sense. I already told you why the descision was made. If you're unable to read me postings don't comment them sest.

Very interesting statement. For me the loudest cry looks like:

Restrict Braemar (RR2, Non-Twinks) for more Emain RvR?
No, I want Braemar Action with Twinks 59% [ 58 ]
Yes, I am bored 40% [ 39 ]
Total Votes : 97

But i have noticed quite often in the past, that the staff must have a selective hearing.

Greetings,
Banjo, who has his Braem-army ready for his personal fun in BGs.