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Postby Galandriel2 » Apr 21, 2014 22:14

time for a donation button also
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[12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy galandriel and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks
[23:52] <Skarz> u are best skald i seen for long time

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Postby Neoticus » Apr 21, 2014 23:49

Hi, i want to play on Hib after the relaunch and would like to start with an Eldritch for RvR, just because i like it if i can kill somebody in a short time :D i played on hib before, my highest char was a lv 49 druid. Now i would like to know if the eldritch got any buffs/nerfs with the old RA´s and how viable is he in 8v8 ?

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Postby HolySpartan » Apr 22, 2014 08:40

Just found this shard not long ago, so I will be new to Uthgard when it's up but played a lot back in the day! I'm planning on rolling hib, and much prefer melee classes, had a couple questions!

1)I've noticed you've talked about LW hero, but I was curious about CS? How big of a damage difference is there considering thrusting generally has better resist tables against mid/alb? Is CS viable or is LW simply superior?

2) Which would you say will be more useful on this patch to Hib, BM or a hero? How are their playstyles different in today's RvR?

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 22, 2014 13:42

Zerpi wrote:Oh great cait i have a question ! Would you recoment to play with a reaver in a alb grp or do you see a setup to mmake it work with the reaver ?
+ can i get a screenshot of your bard with a autograph and a note like " for my best buddy , never had so much fun with anyone else" :p (big fan )


I don't think that reavers are any good without Det and low cd purge, sorry.
I hope this will increase your mood
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Postby Cathsy » Apr 22, 2014 13:56

You are pretty poor cait :angry:
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[12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy cathsy and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks
[23:52] <Skarz> u are best warrior i seen for long time

Samina mina eh eh
Waka Waka eh eh

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 22, 2014 14:12

Neoticus wrote:Hi, i want to play on Hib after the relaunch and would like to start with an Eldritch for RvR, just because i like it if i can kill somebody in a short time :D i played on hib before, my highest char was a lv 49 druid. Now i would like to know if the eldritch got any buffs/nerfs with the old RA´s and how viable is he in 8v8 ?


Eldritch is actually the most versatile and viable group caster on Hib, it fits into every kind of Setup. Eldritch recieves a buff with old ra's, because it's the only character that can use red nearsight without loosing any dmg like rm and cab would. Also offtanks loose charge with old ra's, which makes the kiting potential eld has with disease&snare much better.

Some general tips for eld in RvR

- Try to kite melees with disease&snare - disease should always be on their offtanks, snare is situational
- Str Debuff offtanks, Dq/dex debuff if you see they're using thrust (some Mercs will do)
- d/q debuff deftanks,supports,casters
- try to nearsight casters/support, watch if they purge/ wait 1 minute, ns again -> Win
- Disease targets before you start nuking them
- Don't ever let offtanks catch up to you, probably carry some endupots if they go for a hard chase :P
- Don't caststun off or fulltanks
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Postby Jerrian » Apr 22, 2014 19:12

note: Eldritch should be light mana specc , no void ,-) . Void has nice bolts and the shall be fixed at relaunch but a light/mana specc is more decent for grp rvr bcause it has a better utility.
For leveling you should increase your mana line first for pbae bomb. It ´s hard to find level grps with light specc.
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Postby Exploder » Apr 22, 2014 23:30

Reavers aren't really meant for groups. Small man/solo is their best role.
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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 23, 2014 13:47

HolySpartan wrote:Just found this shard not long ago, so I will be new to Uthgard when it's up but played a lot back in the day! I'm planning on rolling hib, and much prefer melee classes, had a couple questions!

1)I've noticed you've talked about LW hero, but I was curious about CS? How big of a damage difference is there considering thrusting generally has better resist tables against mid/alb? Is CS viable or is LW simply superior?

2) Which would you say will be more useful on this patch to Hib, BM or a hero? How are their playstyles different in today's RvR?


1.
I wouldn't say that cs has better resist tables - it always depends on the Targets you're hitting. You will deal slightly more damage against Healers,Mercs & Clerics, but the difference is pretty small. Keep in mind that you can switch between Crush&Slash when going for LW so you will never hit on resistant armors, while dealing almost the same dmg with lw hitting neutral armors than you would deal with cs hitting vulnerable armors, due to higher Growthrates with LW.
The only thing that CS offers is that you can deal dmg while chainsnaring - but the overall damage output will be much lower.
Keep in mind that it is not that easy to always switch weapons according to the situation, I personally only use 6 spear on hero to switch a fast spear in for a quick backsnare and then go back to LW so if you're rusty in your mechanics you'd probably want to start with CS, which doesn't need weaponswitching - alltho I would always recommend LW.

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Both are useful, we will still see hero being the Deftank in a hib grp. On the other Hand there might be people playing Offensive Heros which isn't bad either, with lighttanks loosing charge there is not much that makes BM a better Offtank than Hero. If you want to compare offensive Heros with Bms - Bms will be more rupt & utility oriented (utility in form of peeling with prevent flight) while you'll be a pure dps when playing an offensive hero. 2H users get countered by Bladeturns pretty hard, making them less effective. So if you want the standard offtank, go for BM. Heros are viable as deftanks but probably not superior to bms as an offtank

You can also check out my youtube channel which is in my signature, think I got 2 or 3 Hero PoVs played by me
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Postby Kurtcobain1982 » Apr 25, 2014 16:51

So, How many points (in parry) are good for hero...

perhaps this spec would be good?

50 Shields
50 LW
6 CS
27 Parry
6 Blades (For tauting blade???)

And for BM? 42 shields is enough?

The fact is that BM and hero are the toons I enjoy to play the most, but I am not sure which one to play... Eventually ill play the 2 of them but for starting I believe hero will be the one... so the question is Hero or BM? :P
I really enjoyed your videos :D
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Postby Exploder » Apr 25, 2014 17:07

42 shield is the max for any class I would say.
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Postby Jerrian » Apr 25, 2014 19:27

Exploder wrote:42 shield is the max for any class I would say.

hm there are different opinions about shieldspecc, I always specced my Tanks 50 shield because I played them as guardbot, for def tanks I would always go for 50 shield, there are still enoough points left for weapon spec. Offtank bm 42 is enough for shieldstun. In my opinion parry is not so important in RvR as long as you don ´t heading for duels, 1vs1.

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 25, 2014 21:41

Kurtcobain1982 wrote:So, How many points (in parry) are good for hero...

perhaps this spec would be good?

50 Shields
50 LW
6 CS
27 Parry
6 Blades (For tauting blade???)

And for BM? 42 shields is enough?

The fact is that BM and hero are the toons I enjoy to play the most, but I am not sure which one to play... Eventually ill play the 2 of them but for starting I believe hero will be the one... so the question is Hero or BM? :P
I really enjoyed your videos :D


Lw Hero Spec
50 Shields
50 LW
7 CS
26 Parry
10 Blades (for the sidesnare)

Bm does only need 42 shield
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Postby Exploder » Apr 26, 2014 18:35

I guess my gameplay is more geared towards solo so 50 shield would not be an option. Apparently in group play it's more acceptable. My apologies.
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Postby munchies » Apr 26, 2014 20:18

How does hib caster setup look with old RAs? (variations if possible, viable ones only) Same question about mixed group and melee setup. Thanks in advance

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