force 1.113! ! !

Force better positional check
But then Team Zombie will be at 0 lwrp again

Celteen wrote:Force better positional check

This ^

Has anyone tested Uthgard's "positional check" compared to Live's or is it just all based on memory?

Personally I would just implement a percent-chance to proc on those direct dd styles.
Make Indigo a 2/3 chance to proc, and Levi a 1/2 chance to proc.
There is zero reasons to have such powerful and easy to abuse styles on a classic server.
Patch limit is no excuse, this is a prime example of where custom should be applied.


When it comes to the recent problems it might not be the client versions,
but the new connect.exe that is used with the current portal version.

I do assume it is the most likely candidate for these pressing issues.

Austerim wrote:Has anyone tested Uthgard's "positional check" compared to Live's or is it just all based on memory?

the angles are all correct.
the thing thats different is that uthgard uses a global frequency to determine character placement.
if you're finding the right time, positionals can be too good.

Liss wrote:Personally I would just implement a percent-chance to proc on those direct dd styles.
Make Indigo a 2/3 chance to proc, and Levi a 1/2 chance to proc.
There is zero reasons to have such powerful and easy to abuse styles on a classic server.
Patch limit is no excuse, this is a prime example of where custom should be applied.


When it comes to the recent problems it might not be the client versions,
but the new connect.exe that is used with the current portal version.

I do assume it is the most likely candidate for these pressing issues.

this is a discussion on positionals landing when they havnt been earned, this is not a topic for char nerfs. and for ur information levi and indigo do have a resist chance.

Dear Misses Skarz,

please stop flaming us for moonwalking. In german is a saying that goes like this: "Wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Steinen werfen". My advice: Use Google Translator or ask anyone of your guildmates to translate it to you.

There is a nice strategy in your flames: The thread is opened because of the "skill" of some reavers (you) who are able to front-levi-style their targets and you just say: All those people have bad connections, its their fault not my abuse of the uthgard mechanics and then you point your finger at us, flaming us for moonwalking.

Nice try, but very lol. Believe it or not: Many different players(none of them from our guild) from Hibernia asked me over the last few weeks, how you are able to front-levi-style them. Of course, all of them have no skill and/or have bad internet connections, thats why it happens.

And now a US-primetime-player (max. 400 players online) is asking the same question and you just say: Too many players online, server has problems with it. Sounds very logical to me.

So please stop flaming my guild or any of my guildmembers. This thread is not about Requiem moonwalking, this thread is about some reavers that are so "skilled" to front-levi-style their enemies. If you want to flame us, open a new thread or flame us in irc. We even have our own channel there.

Yours sincerely,

Kelodiran.

Kelodiran wrote:Dear Misses Skarz,

please stop flaming us for moonwalking. In german is a saying that goes like this: "Wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Steinen werfen". My advice: Use Google Translator or ask anyone of your guildmates to translate it to you.

There is a nice strategy in your flames: The thread is opened because of the "skill" of some reavers (you) who are able to front-levi-style their targets and you just say: All those people have bad connections, its their fault not my abuse of the uthgard mechanics and then you point your finger at us, flaming us for moonwalking.

Nice try, but very lol. Believe it or not: Many different players(none of them from our guild) from Hibernia asked me over the last few weeks, how you are able to front-levi-style them. Of course, all of them have no skill and/or have bad internet connections, thats why it happens.

And now a US-primetime-player (max. 400 players online) is asking the same question and you just say: Too many players online, server has problems with it. Sounds very logical to me.

So please stop flaming my guild or any of my guildmembers. This thread is not about Requiem moonwalking, this thread is about some reavers that are so "skilled" to front-levi-style their enemies. If you want to flame us, open a new thread or flame us in irc. We even have our own channel there.

Yours sincerely,

Kelodiran.

haha u will get this topic closed u idiot. this topic is about landing positionals when they havnt been earned as i said. u notice it on a reaver when they get a random levi from the oddest of angels due to the unique style + effect + big dmg, fact is it happening to everyone, kelo how many times u slammed a player who is clearly miles away form u ? what do u call that ? and im pretty sure none acussed u of abusing anything when it happens.

as for what i ment on server lagg... u know there is more to server lagg that ur symbols turning amber and red.... every pet cast on uthgard from reboot has an effect up untill server is rebooted, this is what i ment. ive seen it in the past on uthgard when pet caps were adjusted and the fact ppl seeing these problems past 6 months when the past 6 months albs have had a massive population boost. could be as simple as thurgists.

as for me aiming to land levi in ur face. thats just a false accusation.
as for me flaming ur guildys, i have not intentionaly done so.

p.s feel free to pm me such random bs in the future.

Skarz wrote:
haha u will get this topic closed u idiot.

Skarz wrote:

Liss wrote:...
When it comes to the recent problems it might not be the client versions,
but the new connect.exe that is used with the current portal version.

I do assume it is the most likely candidate for these pressing issues.

this is a discussion on positionals landing when they havnt been earned, this is not a topic for char nerfs. and for ur information levi and indigo do have a resist chance.

Nice.
You get so butthurt that you only see the section of the post that is about balance.
Totally ignoring the more on-topic part of the post.

Skarz wrote:...
as for what i ment on server lagg... u know there is more to server lagg that ur symbols turning amber and red.... every pet cast on uthgard from reboot has an effect up untill server is rebooted, this is what i ment. ive seen it in the past on uthgard when pet caps were adjusted and the fact ppl seeing these problems past 6 months when the past 6 months albs have had a massive population boost. could be as simple as thurgists.
...

I suggest you read up on garbage collection.

lol wow i bet i could count how many braincells u got on 1 hand. why u think i wrote nothing about the part of ur post that was on topic ? ill tell u.... because it was on topic. and last time i checked this is a forum where discussions happen, ppl are able to brainstorm a problem and chat. im not on the forums to troll like most,

Seems the Ranger QQ has evolved into Reaver QQ.

pythion wrote:

Austerim wrote:Has anyone tested Uthgard's "positional check" compared to Live's or is it just all based on memory?

the angles are all correct.
the thing thats different is that uthgard uses a global frequency to determine character placement.
if you're finding the right time, positionals can be too good.

To came back in topic:

Are you sure that positinal check is the same as Live? I can do back/side styles from absurd positions.. maybe i could post a video later

Ok, for starters, please bring this topic back to hand. Yes, this does involve reavers but in reality this would involve all postional styles. The reavers getting the levi off while in front is just what brought up this discussion.

This is not about Chikane, Nubrina, Maelle, or Arcangel as they are all good fair players in my book. I cant say Chikane is doing it since I havent fought him in about 3-4 weeks. I will say he had no problem getting run through levi's off on me prior to this, but none of them were in front of me. He just did the run threw method very well. I also dont think any of these reavers are intentionally using this to gain an advantage. I would say they are just doing like me on my ranger and using levi w/ an anytime back up and trying to run threw to get it off.

Like Sleepwell stated, my back up and face method worked just fine up until about 2-3 weeks ago. Yes, reavers would still land the occasional levi on me, but it was because they were running through me and landing it while in the middle of me or behind me. My system is not perfect for preventing the run threw method, but it has worked just fine and prevented most levi's. The difference is that before they never landed them IN FRONT of me, only as it was supposed to work as outlined by Magico in the 2 threads I will list below. Maybe once or twice a week a really strange levi would get through on a rare occasions, but it was VERY rare. Now it is almost commonplace.

Here are the 2 threads that Magicco put forth to explain the live vs uthgard behavior on landing positionals:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24635
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24559

I'm still trying to find the post of Seyha that had the screen shot of me performing the side stun in front of him. I'm having a hard time finding it but when I do i will paste it below. * I apologise, the 1st link listed above is the link I was referring to. The img that Seyha posted was just removed or not working now.