What a useless thread this is...

But to contribute something:

Not sure which druids you are talking about, but I am personally not aware of any of the 4 regular Req druids knowingly using this, shall we call it a mechanic (doesn't mean it never happens, obviously). In contrast, I remember several fights where a certain reaver caught up to me even tho neither of us had speed and me with a decent head start. So let's not point fingers here for problems that especially in an 8vs8 situation are more often than not involuntary consequences of poor net code. Which brings us to a more general problem on Uthgard, which includes a number of issues relating to the servers ability to accurately resolve player positions in combat. Levi from the front comes to mind, but also getting slammed in the face by someone that is 5m++ away.

So the right way to go about this would be to get a mate, log into Pendragon and so some testing regarding these things to demonstrate that Uthgard or DOL has some issues here. However, there is ofc also the problem of latency, and I am not sure how this is being compensated for. But Blue should know. Same goes for Moonwalking. If this is indeed a reproducible phenomenon (as is the positional style problem), than this should be fixable, I hope.

continously trying to bring this into a trash talking session ey ?

the summary is : me making a post about some players in the fairest guild on hib / uthgard using an exploit rescently that i feel is not acceptable, i even mentioned that this may be the reason u have won a few fights rescently. ultimatly im challenging the GM's to decide and tell me if this is legal.

conclusion : if this is not legal = stop using the bug or ban + ruin ur reputation
: if this is legal = lock topic and cu emain prime time..... move on

Kelodiran wrote:

Skarz wrote:called timing, its well known in the center of u i can land any positional style, but for u i apear to levi ur face. i suggest u get a better connection.

Then all of our group-members have a bad connection. Thanks for the info.

Maybe you should stop blaming people of bugabuse and think about your own playstyle.

the only from req at the mom with bad conc is me ^^ and i can´t moonwalk

I was actually being horribly friendly up there. The 'useless' comment refers to my complete lack of understanding what it is that you hope to accomplish by pointing fingers at semi-anonymous players and their guild about a 'bug abuse' where it is not even clear whether it really is an abuse, instead of just:

1) Talk to the people that you suspect of abusing bugs
2) Make a bug report. When the bug is fixed, even the most stubborn bug user will have a hard time abusing it.

That is all that is appropriate and needed here. Everything else is just flame bait tbh.

must be hard not to be able to abuse game mechanic anymore 'cause others abuse it as well now... but blaming them for it... oh the irony.

Blue wrote:

HulkGris wrote:Subject: moonwalking
Hi,

Could you please state on this point ? Moonwalking is considered as a bug or not ?
Because i know how to do it, and i will have a huge advantage on doing it with my cab or cleric.

Regards,

Its a bug on client. How can you even doubt that.

@Anyone-concerned : So, stop bug exploit now (and hypocrisy). You have rank, you have skill, you don't need to exploit bug.

Skarz wrote:continously trying to bring this into a trash talking session ey ?

the summary is : me making a post about some players in the fairest guild on hib / uthgard using an exploit rescently that i feel is not acceptable, i even mentioned that this may be the reason u have won a few fights rescently. ultimatly im challenging the GM's to decide and tell me if this is legal.

conclusion : if this is not legal = stop using the bug or ban + ruin ur reputation
: if this is legal = lock topic and cu emain prime time..... move on

No, im not trying to bring this into a trash talking session. Its just very funny if someone like u is blameing us for bugabuse. Thats all I want to say.

holsten-knight wrote:must be hard not to be able to abuse game mechanic anymore 'cause others abuse it as well now... but blaming them for it... oh the irony.

THIS!

HulkGris wrote:

Blue wrote:

HulkGris wrote:Subject: moonwalking
Hi,

Could you please state on this point ? Moonwalking is considered as a bug or not ?
Because i know how to do it, and i will have a huge advantage on doing it with my cab or cleric.

Regards,

Its a bug on client. How can you even doubt that.

@Anyone-concerned : So, stop bug exploit now (and hypocrisy). You have rank, you have skill, you don't need to exploit bug.

and being able to land positional styles from any side is... intended?

Why have they implemented positional styles at all then?

It is also a bug in the client. the only difference is that is so widely known that a lot of people use it and call it skill meanwhile

the moonwalking is by far not so mighty... it is just a useful counter against the other abuse but not of much use for other purposes.

strafing to land positional's, were realy bk on that ? strafing wasnt intended but became acceptable, if they truely wanted to remove the effectivness of strafing they would just remove /face and /stick. but welldone bringing the topic bk onto the oldest whine subject in daoc history.

it still is a bug. that is known for a longer time and by more people does not make it less of a bug, and you mastered to abuse it...

you started to blame people for using bugs, not me

and edit: flump has a stream record of smokeys using the moonwalk bug... and i have not encountered any other players using it so far.

wow u all completly missed my point when i mentioned requiem, coz i see moonwalking as a major exploit, something that i would consider bannable, and me mentioning requiem use it was more of a statement that if they use this and they are known fair players..... then by rights all fair players have access to this option, and imo would ruin rvr mechanics to extreme length's. and as i said i ultimatly wanted to know if this is legal since i had been seeing it more and more in rvr NOT ONLY by the few in requiem.

purpose of the post was to get an answer yes or no, good or bad, ect. so far amoungst all the ****** being said we have 1 answer, uthgard aims to upgrade client lvl requirement to a version where moonwalking is no longer possible which leads me to believe they dnt like ''moonwalking'' but we are yet to know if action will be made to players who do use it.

anything off topic u can send me via forums or irc kkthnxbye,

Long story short: If your name isn't shown in blue, none of you get to decide what is bannable. This thread will lead only to senseless flames, so consider the matter closed.