realac0 wrote:

grumbolt wrote: ...

i am pretty sure if u give a scout to tzaaa after he got some rr's, he is going to kick a.s.s. like he doing with ranger (not because h e is good, just because he is well used play bow kite tactic).


my 2 cents

It rly hurt me cause not only he know how play a bow sniper ranger
thats my 5 cents!

If I'm not mistaken Tzzaa made a 50 scout first and rerolled ranger XD!

Siminor wrote:If I'm not mistaken Tzzaa made a 50 scout first and rerolled ranger XD!

Yeah because playing easy-mode archer is better, obviously.

Just spec your Scout mos5 45 bow and camp amg. Dont get why everyone cries about scouts. With mos5 45bow you can make lots of RP, most Rangers dont melee at all as well, and perform ok with it.
Seriously you have 2min port most of the time and be back in no time, but still cry if you get zerged, because you lose 2min of your playtime lol

Not from experience, but I would assume that one of the biggest problem for scouts is the lack of hib and mid assasins to kill because other classes would be very difficult for them. This mostly has to do with why play ns when you can play ranger and the only sbs usually out in rvr are minimum rr9 typically.

Siminor wrote:Not from experience, but I would assume that one of the biggest problem for scouts is the lack of hib and mid assasins to kill because other classes would be very difficult for them. This mostly has to do with why play ns when you can play ranger and the only sbs usually out in rvr are minimum rr9 typically.

Not really, i remember nek doing pretty well, vs most of class, especially vs visible. Most of ppl dont try to improve their gameplay, they shot with bow, and stay, wiaitng the guy get in melee for try a slam. Everyone got purge, just kite kite and kite, and you will win fights. Scout is a ranged class, not a tank, but a lot of ppl dont understand that at all

Orihiime wrote:

Siminor wrote:Not from experience, but I would assume that one of the biggest problem for scouts is the lack of hib and mid assasins to kill because other classes would be very difficult for them. This mostly has to do with why play ns when you can play ranger and the only sbs usually out in rvr are minimum rr9 typically.

Not really, i remember nek doing pretty well, vs most of class, especially vs visible. Most of ppl dont try to improve their gameplay, they shot with bow, and stay, wiaitng the guy get in melee for try a slam. Everyone got purge, just kite kite and kite, and you will win fights. Scout is a ranged class, not a tank, but a lot of ppl dont understand that at all

the frenchie is right

Orihiime wrote:

Siminor wrote:Not from experience, but I would assume that one of the biggest problem for scouts is the lack of hib and mid assasins to kill because other classes would be very difficult for them. This mostly has to do with why play ns when you can play ranger and the only sbs usually out in rvr are minimum rr9 typically.

Not really, i remember nek doing pretty well, vs most of class, especially vs visible. Most of ppl dont try to improve their gameplay, they shot with bow, and stay, wiaitng the guy get in melee for try a slam. Everyone got purge, just kite kite and kite, and you will win fights. Scout is a ranged class, not a tank, but a lot of ppl dont understand that at all

Nek did well because he duoed or trioed with an inf or another scout.

thursa wrote:

Orihiime wrote:

Siminor wrote:Not from experience, but I would assume that one of the biggest problem for scouts is the lack of hib and mid assasins to kill because other classes would be very difficult for them. This mostly has to do with why play ns when you can play ranger and the only sbs usually out in rvr are minimum rr9 typically.

Not really, i remember nek doing pretty well, vs most of class, especially vs visible. Most of ppl dont try to improve their gameplay, they shot with bow, and stay, wiaitng the guy get in melee for try a slam. Everyone got purge, just kite kite and kite, and you will win fights. Scout is a ranged class, not a tank, but a lot of ppl dont understand that at all

Nek did well because he duoed or trioed with an inf or another scout.

Yes he did trio and duo, but i saw him often solo and kill a lot of ppl ^^ he even killed my sb 1V1, and i cant say that about most of scouts, especially the high rr one that cant really use their chars corectly

Nek did well vs other assasins like a scout should, but I really don't see a same rr scout beating a same rr visible unless that person is group spec or brain dead. It is pretty easy to not let a scout kite you by either running away or finding a los issue spot. Any class with a shield will maybe get hit once before engage. They do not have a stun rr5 that isn't purgeable they have a root with no dmg and they do not have speed like a ranger. Yes there are several things they can do and mess around with, but in most cases I do not think a scout should beat a visi of similiar rr. My imba scout is 48 now need to temp him and then let the frustration begin after thid, but I do not have high expectations other than to have fun with the class so should be interesting to say the least.

Siminor wrote:Nek did well vs other assasins like a scout should, but I really don't see a same rr scout beating a same rr visible unless that person is group spec or brain dead. It is pretty easy to not let a scout kite you by either running away or finding a los issue spot. Any class with a shield will maybe get hit once before engage. They do not have a stun rr5 that isn't purgeable they have a root with no dmg and they do not have speed like a ranger. Yes there are several things they can do and mess around with, but in most cases I do not think a scout should beat a visi of similiar rr. My imba scout is 48 now need to temp him and then let the frustration begin after thid, but I do not have high expectations other than to have fun with the class so should be interesting to say the least.

Shield users are maybe the easiest target to kill. They count to much on their shield, believe it protect them from a critshot. Often i see a shield user stop, and only /face you, believe they will block every shot from your arrow, and they stop to run. So you just have to shot critshotif they try to run, you shot them on the back, if they hide, you use volley. The only problems are the charge tanks and casters for a bow specced

actually this is bug using, as a shield spec char should block 100% of arrwos... but we already had that in bug report section and it is quite hard to prove since bow changed on live to cast.

holsten-knight wrote:actually this is bug using, as a shield spec char should block 100% of arrwos... but we already had that in bug report section and it is quite hard to prove since bow changed on live to cast.

Should block NORMAL arrows, not the critshot that cant be evaded, blocked, parried, or anything

There is no 100% in daoc and there is no block form the back.
So if no one disturbes this nice and fair 1vs1 the visible class is dead 100%! ;P
But there are a lot of police officers helping those tanks hrhr

Orihiime wrote:

holsten-knight wrote:actually this is bug using, as a shield spec char should block 100% of arrwos... but we already had that in bug report section and it is quite hard to prove since bow changed on live to cast.

Should block NORMAL arrows, not the critshot that cant be evaded, blocked, parried, or anything

lol, all shields users are used to be in god mode, block everything, and forget (or maybe haven't never see) how was working on live compared to uthgard ...

i play paladin too, and lot of time i just "lol" seeing how perform a low ws char woth mob3 guarding a caster/healer, expecially against 2handers.

On the other side, i must admit that if ws/defence penetration was working as intended, with this ra's systems and old settings, 8men fights will gain a very bad impact. Will become impossible for any casters survive 1 or 2 charging tanks, even if a shield guarding him so ... at the end of all, if they want fix ws they MUST go back old ra's , always the same story we talked a lot on this broads.

about scouts:
@Dexx
i am sure u'll find the way to have fun with Scout too. I just think THE SCOUT was Dioz, havn't never see any other scout play well like him. Maybe he always duo, maybe only for rr, i dunno, but on every situation (solo/duo/trio) he was the real problem, not the Infi or the Minstrel (at least on my experience with ranger).