Hey it's Sturlek, another person that tasked to their realm rank.

Cruell is right

Cruell wrote:I personally feel guard tasks create far more RvR than it hurts. I dont understand why some people are so upset by someone guard tasking, if it bothers you so much just go kill them.

If you think removing guard tasks is going to increase rvr you are very very wrong. You will see the opposite result and there will be fewer people on the server especially in slower time zones.

I really dont understand the hate for people that like to pve and do tasks, these are the people that keep the server thriving and the economy going. They are the ones that do raids and sell items for your rvr templates allowing the RvR people to keep doing what they like to do, everything works together.

If they make a group and go do tasks, then just get a few people and go kill them and get your easy RP's.

besides doing guard tasks is very boring and if someone wants to do them over and over and get some Realm Ranks, then I say more power to them. It doesnt diminish my Realm Rank at all, in fact I am sure they have donated RP's to me and my group at some point.

I honestly dont see how this hurts RvR at all.

Cruell gets +1

And you need rr5l5-6 to compete in emain, especially if you don't RvR a lot.

GUARD TASK #1 RVR PROBLEM ON UTHGARD!

I agree with Cruell too.

Generally, to think that removal of PvE content will motivate people who don't enjoy RvR to go participate in RvR is a fallacy. Making RvR more enjoyable for them might. (Easier said than done)

Guardtasks on principle don't hurt anyone, and I doubt you "have to" chase people who do them. That being said, the way the current task system works isn't great. As stated before, keep take tasks or something like "Kill x guards at keep y" would be a lot better as far as creating action goes. It is hard enough to find someone in these big maps along with low population, so it would be nice if such tasks would work only if you stay near a certain keep.

Ichi wrote:I agree with Cruell too.

Generally, to think that removal of PvE content will motivate people who don't enjoy RvR to go participate in RvR is a fallacy. Making RvR more enjoyable for them might. (Easier said than done)

Guardtasks on principle don't hurt anyone, and I doubt you "have to" chase people who do them. That being said, the way the current task system works isn't great. As stated before, keep take tasks or something like "Kill x guards at keep y" would be a lot better as far as creating action goes. It is hard enough to find someone in these big maps along with low population, so it would be nice if such tasks would work only if you stay near a certain keep.

I'm sure people see it as pve content killing guards. Not a single person I've asked does it for the sheer fun of killing guards. And yes, you really do have to chase them down to find them, they don't want to be found, they don't want to rvr, they don't plan on coming back knowing that there is action. Making people into sheep for the wolf, sounds like an excellent solution. So much fun. If they don't want to rvr, they shouldn't rvr. If they want realmrank, they should kill players.

Austerim wrote:Hey it's Sturlek, another person that tasked to their realm rank.

Of course I task. You say that like I should care about your opinion on it though, Austerim. Am I supposed to sit around twiddling my thumbs when there's <50 people on in my realm? But you know as well as I do that I run groups as well as tasking, since your group just died to us multiple times not more than 5 hours ago. If everyone played the way you preferred, we would all be sitting around idle until the right number of people and the right classes to form a group in multiple realms magically appeared. That may be fine for you, but I'm not gonna do nothing while waiting for others to log in.

By the way, you're not excused from the verbal diarrhea you were spewing about Dark Auspices on the previous page, as whether or not I task is completely irrelevant to how much you actually understand their guild.

Sturlek wrote: If everyone played the way you preferred, we would all be sitting around idle until the right number of people and the right classes to form a group in multiple realms magically appeared

wow best sentence i ve ever read in the forum, thats why most ppl ve 200days played and are still rr5

ZaiQQ wrote:

Ichi wrote:Not a single person I've asked does it for the sheer fun of killing guards.

i do! it makes me feel good to trap them, beckon them behind keeps and kill them! i feel smart and powerful after success

Galandriel2 wrote:

ZaiQQ wrote:

Ichi wrote:Not a single person I've asked does it for the sheer fun of killing guards.

i do! it makes me feel good to trap them, beckon them behind keeps and kill them! i feel smart and powerful after success

You're one in a million cutie, one in a million!

A guard tasking group runs from a cookie 8 man imagine that. I would probably give the taskers more credit. It is probably harder for them to kill the guards than it is for some rr8 plus guild to kill rr4 pugs in emain. I rarely task it bores me to death. However, the group tasks should make the people take the keeps I think versus just opening doors on multiple keeps and farming guards in 8 man then this would at least help the realm for people wanting df and other bonuses.

Siminor wrote:A guard tasking group runs from a cookie 8 man imagine that. I would probably give the taskers more credit. It is probably harder for them to kill the guards than it is for some rr8 plus guild to kill rr4 pugs in emain. I rarely task it bores me to death. However, the group tasks should make the people take the keeps I think versus just opening doors on multiple keeps and farming guards in 8 man then this would at least help the realm for people wanting df and other bonuses.

what guildgroups are you talking about? the hardest thats been out for 3 weeks is like a rotla/mb pug and they were out for what, 2-3 hours. All other groups has been low-end, majority of them /lfg pugs

ZaiQQ wrote:what guildgroups are you talking about? the hardest thats been out for 3 weeks is like a rotla/mb pug and they were out for what, 2-3 hours. All other groups has been low-end, majority of them /lfg pugs

For once i agree with ZaiQQ, since i play hib , never seen any guild group running, only pug everyday with all kind of realm rank.the only guild group we can see atm in emain are ITALICVS and they run with some new players and are not so hard.

And I also hate to agree with Maelle, but both him and Zai are right. I think the change they made to tasks was the perfect change. It allows for truly lower RR players to be able to obtain a more then high enough RR to be able to compete in actual RvR without allowing for people to task up to RR11+ by doing nothing but PvE. I think its a great change.

Guys, look at previous posts on this and you will see that I have always been more on the side of tasks simply because during American prime time that is the only thing to do alot of nights. However, the situation has only gotton worse and worse as people have figured out how to abuse a decent system in tasking.

I havent been on in the last week, but when I was on the few weeks prior to that I seen a 8 man Alb group that would do EVERYTHING IN ITS POWER to avoid any sort of fights and just task. On top of that they didnt even deal with opening doors. Instead they took Jackpot (8L6 inf) with them and they would park BEHIND the keep so people wouldnt see them and they would pull all the gaurds quickly, kill them, then move on to another keep. People can say whatever BS they want, I seen this group EVERY NIGHT for weeks on end do nothing but avoid any sort of fight to do nothing more then task.

This group might not have had 2 clerics and a perfect set up, but they were almost always a mix of higher RR player (7-9L0) along with a few lower RR players (3L-5L). If groups like this actually went out and did some RvR on occasion it would greatly increase the action. Instead they would rather task over and over again and hide from any sort of incoming. I seen this FG of Albion players get rolled by a 4 man of Hibs. That is just sad. Maybe ditch the inf, grab another cleric, and do some actual RvR for a change.

Anyone who says that Mids and Hibs are running set FG's on a regular basis during this time (American Prime Time) is an idiot and know's nothing about RvR. Hibs run mainly all Pug's even MB at this point. Mids are Pug central during American Prime time. I can say this because my ranger has been in visi groups more in the last month then all my time in the previous 2.5 years I played here. Why? Because they want to fill a group and dont always have the "perfect setup."

This new change is awesome and I thank the GM's for making a great change!!!