No, what makes me laugh is people that say it needs a balance... Have you played a ranger here? Have you made one, level'd it to 50, and played with it in actual RvR (not BG's)? Until you do then all your comments are based on nothing. If my RR9L6 ranger can get his butt kicked by several different classes WITH all of his RA's up then I would say the class has its "balance" in the fact that multiple classes give them very hard times. I can tell you right now, that playing a ranger from 4L2 till 9L6 is not "easy" in any way shape or form. Yes, if I wanted to sit back and add in every single fight w/ my bow and run away (ala Alanya on her ranger) I could prolly do it pretty easily, but so could scout and hunter for that matter. When it comes to actually playing and fighting classes 1 vs 1 and winning consistantly I can say with 110% accuracy that ranger has more than enough classes that can destroy it.

Ask any well played Merc/Warrior/Pally/Thane/Friar and they will all tell you that rangers are easy to kill. Yes, I will gladly admit that with the current settings the way they are that Ranger is #1 on the food chain in the stealther classes, but if you really played since Euro Beta (which I doubt) then you know that class changed all the time. Inf was #1 till New RA's came out. Then ranger took over after New RA's. If you played so much then you should know what classes can kill a ranger with ease, and how about you take some time to make one of those to kill those op'd rangers rather then QQ'ing here. There has been enough threads about this and to be honest, its quite stupid. They can get filed along with the Viper is op'd threads and all the other stuff the GM's have heard 4 trillion times.

Also, I listed my classes so I dont hide behind an anonymous post. Why dont you please give us ur toons and levels. That way I can point out the OP'd part of those classes just like you seem to want to point out how rangers are so op'd.

Panzer wrote:I see tons of brave words about not adding, 1vs1 bs, and most of it comes from fotm Rangers. Pretty darn fed up with seeing em grind down Berserkers, 2+ Hunters etc - with pure melee. And then whining about being added. Why whine? More free RP in cruise mode.

GM's - it's time to balance this crap up. Take a look around, Rangers are severly OP. Reasons are many, just fix em. Right now, Rangers are one humungus bug.

Pretty please, with sugar on top - balance it up.

Rant over - flame away.

"Pretty darn fed up with seeing em grind dow berserkers, 2+ hunters etc...."

I just reread this and its funny, I've seen a berserker with 2 hunters that have killed me 3 vs 1's multiple times on my ranger the last few days. I guess I should make a Berserker/Hunter are OP'd thread and make a funny meme to commemorate my post. Or maybe you are one of them. I guess that would explain the /rudes after u 3 vs 1 me. Oh well, its all part of the game. By the way, IF ranger is so op'd and they destroy everything so easily why would you add? I mean if a class can kill 2 hunters using nothing but mele then does that character really need help from you? Also, any 2 hunters that are getting killed by a ranger using nothing but mele are HORRIBLE!! Those 2 hunters I referenced earlier have killed me multiple times in a 2 vs 1 fight and I can barely touch them. One kites the other shoots me, I go after the other and he kites while the other shoots me. Any 2 hunters standing there letting a ranger mele them down is just dumb. Also, Zerkers are not much of a solo class to be fighting a ranger. No shield means they are going to look like a pin cushion by the time they engage a ranger.

So I guess what you are saying is that any other class besides ranger can ask for a fair 1 vs 1 fight, but when a ranger does its wrong. Tell you what, go out and fight a few high RR assasins on whatever toon you have and tell me how that goes for you or maybe some high RR tanks that are solo spec'd. Spoiler alert!! Your going to lose that fight as well, and some of those assasins/tanks will also ask you to not add their 1 vs 1 fights. Guess we better nerf them as well. Oh thats right, we allready have a nerf for them, ITS CALLED RANGER!!

Rant over- flame away

P.S. My comment about it being an idiotic junk thread is that a ton of these threads exist. I have commented in about every one of them. The reason? I play a ranger, and I can say that actually playing this class as much as I have it is most certainly not "easy" mode. Also, you see in my signatures that I play other classes as well so I do have something to base my assesment on.

Dear Ron.

I saw loads of text. Didnt read it .

To hard or just not enough time? If only all debates could be finished with a few choice words and an internet meme. I find it funny you create a thread and then say you dont want to read a post showing how your original post was junk. I guess I will simplify it all for you:

Your post can join the thousands of others of posts that have said similiar to "ranger op'd" or "remove viper" threads. Also, your post lacks any facts and only QQ's showing how pathetic of a post it actually is.

Is that short enough for you?

Also, in case that last post was to in depth for you here is another not even posted by me:

Qibonesi wrote:Stealthers by nature will have more "preparation" than your typical class. They will use multiple sets of weapons in a fight, every potion known to man, and a template to make you drool. I find no shame losing to a assassin class, or even archer class because the amount of time and preparation they put into this game is a lot and put the avg DAoC player to shame. Look at some of the videos in the video section.

Learn thy enemy...

It was in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=27618

It asks why an 8L4 NS out of stealth killed a 4L4 warrior so easily. He asked, we responded, he then understood why. Maybe you should take a note from him.

Have you ever think to write a Book, Zack ?

The day a person pays me to write a book about DAOC I will get right on it. I have lots of time at work to write on here and I like to make sure my points are well thought out and explained. If people dont want to read them, then dont. For those that do, I think they will agree that they explain my points well enough. I guess I never understood the point of making a "quick" comment on a forum. Make your case, and back it up with details and facts. Maybe I should start responding only with Internet meme's like others do.

Very few rangers can beat my zerker in melee.. ;-D

rangers are fine, leave them alone

nerf zerker
/derail

Start a book, i will be your Annie ! if you dont understand, watch the movie Misery

Dear Ron.

Once again, see loads of text. Dunno what its about. I just dont care. You bore me, thats all.

Edited , first part was a pm

@Zack
If u consider #1 on stealth list Ranger because 1 time every 15 mins u can have a chance against good assassins with your similar rr, well, we have different pov

Maybe times ago u was right, but, now, with all these weaps lifebane switch every swing, i think u die on around 6/7 seconds like me against any similar rr stealthers if your ra's not up.

dexx (is just an exemple of a vey good assassin atm playing), can kill u every minute, u, MAYBE, every 15 if he not evade too mutch

My 2 cents

Is Drawstab here

Right, since I just got my permissions back and this thread has been reported, I took the liberty of cropping it a bit and removing all the offensive posts. Be nice, boys and girls!

Fortyseven wrote:Right, since I just got my permissions back and this thread has been reported, I took the liberty of cropping it a bit and removing all the offensive posts. Be nice, boys and girls!

you're taking the fun out of my morning coffe :@

ZaiQQ wrote:you're taking the fun out of my morning coffe :@

My pleasure, don't mention it. Now please get back on-topic!