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Postby vangonaj » May 31, 2012 16:46

HulkGris wrote:By the way, in BG, i see more Mid than Hib. Either if we talk about zerg or just fg.


I see more mids than albs or hibs in all rvr zones.
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Postby borog » May 31, 2012 17:06

the amount of people playing in RvR whether that be BG or elsewhere is entirely subjective anyway as it depends on the time of day, which zone you are in, which realm you play and how much pot you have smoked.

I was in wilton last night with my BD and there were around 3 fga battling 2 fgm whilst 1fgh stole CK from the albs after we took the doors down.

Of course, i know everything there is to know about your play style and where you were because your signature says you only have one Thid level character, so you must have been there.

Therefore you cannot possibly comment on what i said because you have no experience of what i was talking about.

Is that pretty much how the know-it-all attitude works?

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Postby HulkGris » May 31, 2012 17:37

borog wrote:Therefore you cannot possibly comment on what i said because you have no experience of what i was talking about.

You're right, i should have written : in Braemar and Thidranki, generally, i see more Mids than Hibs. Sometimes there's more Albs, but it's not common.
borog wrote:Is that pretty much how the know-it-all attitude works?

They are right. That's why i said "I see".
And /who confirm that Midgard is the over-populated realm.
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Postby borog » May 31, 2012 18:13

sorry Hulk i used you as an example of how it works, i have no problem with what you have posted :)

its easy to make assumptions about someone based on information they let you know in a signature.

i think the OT was answer sufficiently

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Postby Bellatrix » May 31, 2012 23:37

Orihiime wrote:
vangonaj wrote:
Orihiime wrote:lol dont listen this guy, he got 50 char with highest rr 4L8, how can someone with this kind of stats talk about end rvr


High rr= lot of free time, no RL... And more in this server.

I never said another thing, i said it in another post exactly same thing than you, but it dont change the fact that this kind of ppl that never go emain and spread thing like : hib only play bgs and they are never emain, because he actually only play in bg and see them only there, shouldnt talk about thing they dont know, because hibs are in emain everyday, and more than 1 fg, unlike him that only play bgs and df.



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Postby borog » Jun 01, 2012 00:08

Bellatrix wrote:ORIHIIME FOR PRESIDENT!


i feel sorry for that country..

a leader that makes decisions on assumptions? welcome to the brave new world eh?

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Postby Caemma » Jun 01, 2012 02:05

3 fga 2 fgm 1 fgh this evening in thid, nice :D
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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 01, 2012 02:18

The RvR population really changes weekly, sometimes there are tons of mids, and sometimes they are completely underdog. Nonetheless mid is the pug friendliest realm on this server.
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Postby borog » Jun 01, 2012 10:12

its much easier to pug a melee group than the others which is i suppose why mids do so well.

Obviously i dare not give my opinion for fear of getting something wrong.

However, wilton was fun last night it was 2fgm again 1 hib and 1 alb, then 2fgh turned up, got wiped a few times and /ragequit, then 3fga turned up and squashed everyone so mids /ragequit

but still my duo partner capped so its all good.

As far as the state of the server is concerned; apart from the few game changing bugs that are still present, rvr is pretty good.

So y7ou just need to think whether you want to play more Magic (Hib); Melee (Mid), or a mixed group (Alb).

I never play Hib or Alb so im biased :)

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Postby Fabulabelle » Jun 01, 2012 11:54

borog wrote:However, wilton was fun last night it was 2fgm again 1 hib and 1 alb, then 2fgh turned up, got wiped a few times and /ragequit, then 3fga turned up and squashed everyone so mids /ragequit

but still my duo partner capped so its all good.

Nice story ^^ :rolleyes:
borog wrote:So y7ou just need to think whether you want to play more Magic (Hib); Melee (Mid), or a mixed group (Alb).
I never play Hib or Alb so im biased :)

Magic = Alb :) I meet much more caster grp than melee grp. And I did play alb and hib, and alb caster grp are just awesome ^^

Hib caster grp are really nice, but underestimated: That is the current situation. That's why you often meet melee grp with 1 eld, or mixt with 1eld/1enchant. Although I love hib caster grp, it's not easy to reach to build one :)

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Postby Zarkor » Jun 01, 2012 12:07

Nef Melody wrote:The RvR population really changes weekly, sometimes there are tons of mids, and sometimes they are completely underdog. Nonetheless mid is the pug friendliest realm on this server.

borog wrote:its much easier to pug a melee group than the others which is i suppose why mids do so well.

You're correct. Since balance is in favor of tanks (thus Midgard) with the current patch and RA setting , Midgard has the easiest time winning fights. This goes for PuGs too, which is why it's easier to find a group there. People don't have to work as hard to prevent their grpmembers from ragequitting.

Albion with the theurg and OP jugger cabbas comes 2nd.

Hib is the weakest at the time.
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Postby Nef Melody » Jun 02, 2012 02:51

I wouldn't say that Zarkor, hibs have the eld with purple nearsight, which is pretty powerful here, just as the warden, a very underrated char since the purple resists + bladeturn are huge huge benefits.
Zerkers miss lots of utility and the bm rr5 is just a get free out of the jail card. I would not say hib is the strongest realm but really not as bad as everyone thinks it is.
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Postby Caemma » Jun 02, 2012 03:53

Nef Melody wrote:I wouldn't say that Zarkor, hibs have the eld with purple nearsight, which is pretty powerful here, just as the warden, a very underrated char since the purple resists + bladeturn are huge huge benefits.
Zerkers miss lots of utility and the bm rr5 is just a get free out of the jail card. I would not say hib is the strongest realm but really not as bad as everyone thinks it is.

Infact pure melee mid groups on uthgard sucks a lot (especially vs albs setup), no nearsight, no pet clean = madness

And if the tanks dont have det5, a lot of dps is dispersed..

Also, bm rr5 is nice to get out of mess, merc have slam, instead, zerk have the powerfull rr5!! :gaga:
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Postby newguy » Jun 02, 2012 06:39

borog wrote:got wiped a few times and /ragequit, then 3fga turned up and squashed everyone so mids /ragequit


thats just sad, instead of saying, "oh wow this bg is bumpin lets take advatage of it" and get more peeps, or maybe something changes in the other relams, they quit lol. Its that crybaby attitude of "I'm taking my ball and I'm going home"

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Postby Zarkor » Jun 02, 2012 12:55

Nef Melody wrote:I wouldn't say that Zarkor, hibs have the eld with purple nearsight, which is pretty powerful here, just as the warden, a very underrated char since the purple resists + bladeturn are huge huge benefits.
Zerkers miss lots of utility and the bm rr5 is just a get free out of the jail card. I would not say hib is the strongest realm but really not as bad as everyone thinks it is.

In terms of PuGs this is an entirely different story tbh. Elds are one of the strongest casters due to their toolkits, but finding one who can utilise it well enough for them to be worth having in your group is rare. Most elds just die. Be it due to poor deftanks or supports or be it due to poor play by the eld itself, it doesn't really matter. The thing is, the eld needs to almost be babysitted on. Wardens on the other hand are just hard to find. Sure, the resists, BT, AoG and TWF are nice, but grpspec wardens are barely existant because of Hib groups trying to run with the easiest setups. Easiest is in terms of personal skill required that is. Good bards are hard to come by as well. Basicly, most Hib groups tend to lean towards full tank groups because it's the "safest" choice, even tho on paper it's not as wise to do so.

For PuGs, that's just the easiest way to see results, even if they're mediocre at best.


Mids just have a way better setting for this. Zerkers deal more damage than BMs (sure they don't have slam, but the average BM loses damage when trying to slam due to the weaponskill bug and they messy switching) in the end you're looking for DPS when you're looking at light tanks. Zerkers are Nr.1 here. Warriors are by far the best def tanks due to hammer spec. Skalds are common and always carry AoG. Shamans have Ichor, which Hibs barely have access to, not to mention instant PBAOE disease. Full range of resists standard. Celerity, ... the list goes on I'm sure.


Midgard is the tank realm, or I should say, the realm with the strongest tanks. And there's nothing wrong with that on itself. It's just that balance on Uthgard tends to favor tanks, which is in turn in Midgard's favor. Especially in terms of PuGs.
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